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	<title>Comments on: Hillary on Dems on Iraq: We&#8217;re &#8220;struggling&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Global News Blog &#187; Iraq - Iraq &#8220;Improving?&#8221; More lies from Bush, clearly contradicted by US &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global News Blog &#187; Iraq - Iraq &#8220;Improving?&#8221; More lies from Bush, clearly contradicted by US &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary on Dems on Iraq: We re struggling Hot Air,&#160;MD&#160;- 17 hours ago&#8230; Presumably Maliki and Khalilzad think they re going to knock out most of the terrorist opposition by getting the Sunnis to sign off on this, because if not &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary on Dems on Iraq: We re struggling Hot Air,&nbsp;MD&nbsp;- 17 hours ago&#8230; Presumably Maliki and Khalilzad think they re going to knock out most of the terrorist opposition by getting the Sunnis to sign off on this, because if not &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tommy1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22266</link>
		<dc:creator>tommy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem with amnesty in Iraq is the same problem with amnesty in the United States for illegals: you are only encouraging more of the same.

Providing an amnesty to the current insurgents may encourage others to to fight our forces on the assumption that more amnesties will eventually be forthcoming.  In other words, the message will be &quot;you don&#039;t have to fight us forever, just until the next (inevitable) amnesty rolls around.&quot;

Fighting US forces for a period of months or a few years until the next amnesty is a lot more viable than fighting them indefinitely.

It sends the wrong message to the insuragents; namely, that we just aren&#039;t very serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with amnesty in Iraq is the same problem with amnesty in the United States for illegals: you are only encouraging more of the same.</p>
<p>Providing an amnesty to the current insurgents may encourage others to to fight our forces on the assumption that more amnesties will eventually be forthcoming.  In other words, the message will be &#8220;you don&#8217;t have to fight us forever, just until the next (inevitable) amnesty rolls around.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fighting US forces for a period of months or a few years until the next amnesty is a lot more viable than fighting them indefinitely.</p>
<p>It sends the wrong message to the insuragents; namely, that we just aren&#8217;t very serious.</p>
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		<title>By: csjd</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22184</link>
		<dc:creator>csjd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton triangulation strategy at its best. In her statement, she is still trying to please both sides of her polarized party while skewering the loyal opposition. If the political right is unified on a policy, then we are blindly being led down a primrose path. But with no concensus on the left, they are merely struggling while trying to achieve the unity for which she criticizes the Republicans. In trying to appease all sides of the political left, logic and reason are the first things to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton triangulation strategy at its best. In her statement, she is still trying to please both sides of her polarized party while skewering the loyal opposition. If the political right is unified on a policy, then we are blindly being led down a primrose path. But with no concensus on the left, they are merely struggling while trying to achieve the unity for which she criticizes the Republicans. In trying to appease all sides of the political left, logic and reason are the first things to go.</p>
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		<title>By: rplat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22181</link>
		<dc:creator>rplat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary shouldn&#039;t be surprised by their dilemma.  For years the Democrats have been identifying with and pandering to the far left wing of their party and now they have discovered that most Americans cannot tolerate the left&#039;s absolute insanity. Either dump that radical crowd Hillary and move in another direction, or continue to suffer. Unfortunately, for Hillary, she is too tightly tied to the left and can&#039;t break free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary shouldn&#8217;t be surprised by their dilemma.  For years the Democrats have been identifying with and pandering to the far left wing of their party and now they have discovered that most Americans cannot tolerate the left&#8217;s absolute insanity. Either dump that radical crowd Hillary and move in another direction, or continue to suffer. Unfortunately, for Hillary, she is too tightly tied to the left and can&#8217;t break free.</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22178</link>
		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the liberals and the media claimed that the Republicans being split on Immigration is bad.

How come the Democrats being split on anything is then good?

It depends what &#039;being split&#039; means...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the liberals and the media claimed that the Republicans being split on Immigration is bad.</p>
<p>How come the Democrats being split on anything is then good?</p>
<p>It depends what &#8216;being split&#8217; means&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: easy87us</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22165</link>
		<dc:creator>easy87us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary actually trying to tell us one very important fact: Liberals have no platform!

Their only plaform is to oppose GOP platforms. They have surrender the control of issues to GOP. This is not new. It happened long time ago. Instead of finding a new set of platforms to counter GOP, the liberals dragged the Democrats into a culture of negative attack hate Bush campaigns. 

Once they determined to go negative, they forgot that this is  a two way sword. When Cunnigham was nailed they could not wait to come out and yell &quot;Culture of Corruption&quot;. You all know what has happened since then...

ChiCom Chairman Mao said &quot; whatever my enemies oppose, I am for it, and vice versa.&quot; This is a communist thinking that the liberal left brought into the DNC!

In the Iraq war, GOP is for a long term peace and stability for the middle east, so the Demo left has no other option but to propose a pullout!

This is like quick sand. The more negative they get the deeper they sink.

and sink...and sink....with every treacherous act by the MSM...they sink more...

They want to revive the party. But reviving the party takes principles...a set of high moral principles! But the Demo is filled with Hollywood and rap grade moral principles...so it is hopeless.

How can you save a party that highly praised their former leader who has said &quot; I never have sexual relations with that woman&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary actually trying to tell us one very important fact: Liberals have no platform!</p>
<p>Their only plaform is to oppose GOP platforms. They have surrender the control of issues to GOP. This is not new. It happened long time ago. Instead of finding a new set of platforms to counter GOP, the liberals dragged the Democrats into a culture of negative attack hate Bush campaigns. </p>
<p>Once they determined to go negative, they forgot that this is  a two way sword. When Cunnigham was nailed they could not wait to come out and yell &#8220;Culture of Corruption&#8221;. You all know what has happened since then&#8230;</p>
<p>ChiCom Chairman Mao said &#8221; whatever my enemies oppose, I am for it, and vice versa.&#8221; This is a communist thinking that the liberal left brought into the DNC!</p>
<p>In the Iraq war, GOP is for a long term peace and stability for the middle east, so the Demo left has no other option but to propose a pullout!</p>
<p>This is like quick sand. The more negative they get the deeper they sink.</p>
<p>and sink&#8230;and sink&#8230;.with every treacherous act by the MSM&#8230;they sink more&#8230;</p>
<p>They want to revive the party. But reviving the party takes principles&#8230;a set of high moral principles! But the Demo is filled with Hollywood and rap grade moral principles&#8230;so it is hopeless.</p>
<p>How can you save a party that highly praised their former leader who has said &#8221; I never have sexual relations with that woman&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Spurius Ligustinus</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22144</link>
		<dc:creator>Spurius Ligustinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Allahpundit; I think Ann Coulter said the same thing a bit more pithily when she observed, &lt;em&gt;&quot;We finally give liberals a war on fundamentalism, and they won&#039;t fight. They would, but it&#039;d put them on the same side as the United States.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

After Vietnam, about the only war you&#039;ll find the donkey party&#039;s leadership willing to engage in is Class War in America.  Compounding the trouble for today&#039;s donkey party is that in its rage against Republicans in general and George Bush in particular, they can see only one enemy for all occasions.

The result is an extension of the caricature of a political party that the Dems have become: their entire essence can be summed up as, &lt;em&gt;&quot;If George Bush is for it, then I&#039;m against it! If George Bush said it, it must be a &lt;strong&gt;lie&lt;/strong&gt;!!&lt;/em&gt;

So it&#039;s simple for them, really: If George Bush says, &quot;We&#039;ve got to see the thing through,&quot; the the Dems reflexive answer is, &quot;Then I&#039;m for &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; seeing it through.&quot;  

Check of proof: We&#039;ve seen some liberal types, like George Clooney, suggesting that we should do something militarily to intervene in Darfur.  But wanna bet that if George Bush came out in favor of such action that overnight the libs&#039; position would change to, &quot;No war!&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Allahpundit; I think Ann Coulter said the same thing a bit more pithily when she observed, <em>&#8220;We finally give liberals a war on fundamentalism, and they won&#8217;t fight. They would, but it&#8217;d put them on the same side as the United States.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>After Vietnam, about the only war you&#8217;ll find the donkey party&#8217;s leadership willing to engage in is Class War in America.  Compounding the trouble for today&#8217;s donkey party is that in its rage against Republicans in general and George Bush in particular, they can see only one enemy for all occasions.</p>
<p>The result is an extension of the caricature of a political party that the Dems have become: their entire essence can be summed up as, <em>&#8220;If George Bush is for it, then I&#8217;m against it! If George Bush said it, it must be a <strong>lie</strong>!!</em></p>
<p>So it&#8217;s simple for them, really: If George Bush says, &#8220;We&#8217;ve got to see the thing through,&#8221; the the Dems reflexive answer is, &#8220;Then I&#8217;m for <em>not</em> seeing it through.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Check of proof: We&#8217;ve seen some liberal types, like George Clooney, suggesting that we should do something militarily to intervene in Darfur.  But wanna bet that if George Bush came out in favor of such action that overnight the libs&#8217; position would change to, &#8220;No war!&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Rowane</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22142</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to just &quot;cut and run&quot; before the next election then we wouldn&#039;t have to worry about them any more.

Duty, Honor, Country
(in THAT order)
Rowane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to just &#8220;cut and run&#8221; before the next election then we wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about them any more.</p>
<p>Duty, Honor, Country<br />
(in THAT order)<br />
Rowane</p>
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		<title>By: doingwhatican</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22125</link>
		<dc:creator>doingwhatican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the dems struggling with....&quot;cutting&quot; or &quot;running&quot;?  No matter, they want to surrender.

Defeated in both withdrawal votes, they still seem to think they&#039;ve &quot;won&quot; somehow.  Huh?

There&#039;s no unity within the democommie party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the dems struggling with&#8230;.&#8221;cutting&#8221; or &#8220;running&#8221;?  No matter, they want to surrender.</p>
<p>Defeated in both withdrawal votes, they still seem to think they&#8217;ve &#8220;won&#8221; somehow.  Huh?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no unity within the democommie party.</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22076</link>
		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chrrrrr! should have been &quot;Freudian slip&quot; :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chrrrrr! should have been &#8220;Freudian slip&#8221; :(</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22074</link>
		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allahpundit, thank you so much for featuring this.

Please, please, please, one more time, post the Hillary picture with the laurel-wreath, above the Murtha picture!

Notice how, not so subtly, she called our representatives and us &quot;monkeys&quot;. Suppose that was a Fruedian slip or a calculated move?

easy87us, you nailed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allahpundit, thank you so much for featuring this.</p>
<p>Please, please, please, one more time, post the Hillary picture with the laurel-wreath, above the Murtha picture!</p>
<p>Notice how, not so subtly, she called our representatives and us &#8220;monkeys&#8221;. Suppose that was a Fruedian slip or a calculated move?</p>
<p>easy87us, you nailed it!</p>
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		<title>By: easy87us</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/23/hillary-on-dems-on-iraq-were-struggling/comment-page-1/#comment-22057</link>
		<dc:creator>easy87us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;She said&quot;They’re not going to say anything negative about the president&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

Where have you been, Hillary? We have just cracked down Bush Amnesty Bill.

Remember Harriet Mier? Remember the port deal? 

Being ignorant is one thing, but repeating your husband&#039;s mistake is profound.

&quot;I never have sexual relationship with that woman&quot; said Bill Clinton

Now you are doing the same thing....so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>She said&#8221;They’re not going to say anything negative about the president&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Where have you been, Hillary? We have just cracked down Bush Amnesty Bill.</p>
<p>Remember Harriet Mier? Remember the port deal? </p>
<p>Being ignorant is one thing, but repeating your husband&#8217;s mistake is profound.</p>
<p>&#8220;I never have sexual relationship with that woman&#8221; said Bill Clinton</p>
<p>Now you are doing the same thing&#8230;.so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amnesty deals are not uncommon as part of settling rebellions.  Our own Civil War is a prime example.  

I predict that the Sunni tribal elements will accept a deal to put down their rebellion. They have everything to gain if they do so. The Baathists and the Saddamist holdouts won&#039;t, and they will have to be hunted down and killed, along with the remaining Al Qaeda operatives.

This presumes that the US does &lt;strong&gt;*NOT*&lt;/strong&gt; establish a time table to withdraw as the Democrats demand.

As to the Democrat&#039;s &quot;dance&quot; with &lt;em&gt;cutting and running&lt;/em&gt;, I believe that the leftist base will not succeed, at least in this election year.  

If the Democrats fail to gain control of at least one House of Congress this year, I would not be surprised to see the party collapse with the left and the &quot;moderate&quot; liberals going their separate ways for &#039;08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amnesty deals are not uncommon as part of settling rebellions.  Our own Civil War is a prime example.  </p>
<p>I predict that the Sunni tribal elements will accept a deal to put down their rebellion. They have everything to gain if they do so. The Baathists and the Saddamist holdouts won&#8217;t, and they will have to be hunted down and killed, along with the remaining Al Qaeda operatives.</p>
<p>This presumes that the US does <strong>*NOT*</strong> establish a time table to withdraw as the Democrats demand.</p>
<p>As to the Democrat&#8217;s &#8220;dance&#8221; with <em>cutting and running</em>, I believe that the leftist base will not succeed, at least in this election year.  </p>
<p>If the Democrats fail to gain control of at least one House of Congress this year, I would not be surprised to see the party collapse with the left and the &#8220;moderate&#8221; liberals going their separate ways for &#8217;08.</p>
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		<title>By: easy87us</title>
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		<dc:creator>easy87us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;“I think we come out more united,” said Clinton. &lt;/strong&gt;

What she really meant was..&quot;we are in the wrong direction together!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>“I think we come out more united,” said Clinton. </strong></p>
<p>What she really meant was..&#8221;we are in the wrong direction together!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: easy87us</title>
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		<dc:creator>easy87us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats are on the Amnesty train.

Struggling is a very tame discription. They are dying!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats are on the Amnesty train.</p>
<p>Struggling is a very tame discription. They are dying!</p>
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