Also, I think some ones in the military are playing politics with the soldiers’ future. That is why I demand the resignation of General Michael Hagee.

The only way to fix this problem is for the pentagon to draft a detailed procedure regulation regarding engagement with non-uniform combatants, and have it approved by congress. Also we should draft a regulation for how we should treat prisoners.

Then our country should propose to include the regulations into Geneva convention. This may take decades.

Before they have a set of law and regulation on engagement of non-uniformed combatants, they should not try these soldiers.

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I wonder why that is.

Soldiers do NOT sign away their Rights when they join, they still get due process.

I can see them being restricted to base (simple order) but not incarcerated without due process.

The Right so Habeus Corpus, is being erroded in this country… and needs to be fixed.

If they brought charges, they would stir up a nest of killer bees.

I warned them here.

As I said, the military court can try them on murder, but Americans will see it as the biggest injustice we have imposed on our military by sending them into a battle ground fighting an enemy without uniform, but we would have no way to discriminate between terrorists and civilian.

The defense lawyers should really explore our deficiencies in this area.

Bush should pardon them. He really should.

In the context of our enemies in the Middle-East: whoever takes up arms against us is NOT a civilian, if you aid the enemy or give them refuge then you are NOT a civilian.

The most important point in this issue is whether or not these specific marines actually committed murder. Anything else is simply a deflection. Unless these marines are convicted you can bet I will be siding with them instead of blaming Bush or apologizing for terrorists.

So far I have not seen any laws passed by any international body or by our own country regulate armed confrontation against terrorists that are non-uniform.

Because the congress and our Commander in Cheif do not have a set of law written to guide engagement with non-uniformed terrorist, I say that trying them is illegal because there are no law regulating their engagement.

In fact, do you remember a few years ago we took out an entire wedding party north of Iraq? Was anyone getting persecuted?

I am just trying to fight for our soldiers the same way they treat them terrorists at Gitmo.

easy87us on June 21, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Easy,
Are you SURE about this? I’m just asking a question, that’s all. I’m not a lawyer nor was I in the military. Please enlighten/educate me.

Who determine the people our soldier shot at are civilians, but not terrorists?

This is a crock of sh%t Bush is dishing to us. The Congress must stop this monkey show now! In fact, it is illegal to try our soldiers because they are not fighting an armed forces that wear a uniform!

Good writing by the way, now that I understand your point. And yes, it is a serious matter; and one that is not being addressed as it should be.

The defense lawyers should really question the validity of the military court to try these soldiers on current military laws.

They are not fighting a conventional war. Unless the court can prove the guys they shot are not terrorists, the court has no case. It is the court to prove, not the soldiers. The court has to provide proof that what they have killed are innocent civilian. They just shoot anything they feel threatening to them.

It is extremely unfair to our soldiers that they have to follow Geneva Convention while their enemies don’t.

The entire court martial thing is a joke. We cannot possibly allow it to happen without say a word.

Until Bush and the congress can define a new set of law and engagement conduct guideline for the soldiers to follow when fighting terrorists, there is no case.

Of course, they can still persecute the soldiers using Geneva Convention, per force. But who is the commander in cheif on the other side? Who is their legal leader? What is their sovereignty?

This is the biggest injustice our country has imposed onto our soldiers. They are fighting terrorism aganist a group of terrorists that don’t follow Geneva convention. There is no way they can tell who they are shooting against because none of them wear uniform.

Osama, you magnificent bastard. I saw your video…

Allah has more on Haditha and Hamdaniya. Dr. Sanity on the left’s Magic School Bus. James Robbins on why we are better than our enemies, and Gay Patriot on al Qaeda’s strategy in Iraq….

As to these seven Marines and one sailor, they should receive fair and equal treatment. They should have the right to fair trials. I expect President Bush to pardon them immediately if they are found guilty.

These marines are fighting terrorists, they are not fighting a war. I never think they should face court martial based on current Geneva convention. In fact, I think we need to define new laws for the war against terrorisms.

They are not that much different from the pilot that bombed Iraq ( the Shock and Awe missions, remember?) They know damn well that some civilian will be killed too. And our Commander in Chief still authorized them to drop the bomb.

If any one has to be tried, it is the top, not the marines.

Click here….

Are you confusing the Haditha incident with the Marines that were shackled at Camp Pendleton. I think they are not the same. The Marines being held at Pendleton were involved in a much more recent incident where the evidence is a bit more clear. Whereas, the bad guys in Haditha have had much more time to manufacture the evidence to try and implicate Marines of some kind of wrongdoing.

However, I do agree with you in that the presumption of innocence is sometimes hard to find these days, for everyone.

/sarcasm off

This being leaked to the press needs to be investigated… and we need to do somthing about the press at this point. I DO believe in freedom of the press, but do not believe they get a free pass… all this anonymous source crap to cover someone illegaly leaking information has got to stop.