Comments on: Did the U.S. throw Israel under the bus in its nuke proposal to Iran? http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Sat, 26 May 2012 20:58:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Global Geopolitics News » Iranian News - Condoleezza Rice Interview on Face the Nation http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-25051 Global Geopolitics News » Iranian News - Condoleezza Rice Interview on Face the Nation Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:00:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-25051 [...] Did the US throw Israel under the bus in its nuke proposal to Iran …Hot Air, MD - Jun 14, 2006… the western powers live up to their promise and make the region truly WMD-free … power with something to say about sanctions in the event of Iranian noncompliance … [...] [...] Did the US throw Israel under the bus in its nuke proposal to Iran …Hot Air, MD - Jun 14, 2006… the western powers live up to their promise and make the region truly WMD-free … power with something to say about sanctions in the event of Iranian noncompliance … [...]

]]> By: Dread Pirate Roberts VI http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17775 Dread Pirate Roberts VI Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:23:51 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17775 Tommy1, I think they know that! At least the governments of those countries do. It's the wacko factions within their borders that they've appeased for years to suit their own self-interests, and of which they’ve now lost control, which will eventually lead to their destruction. Tommy1, I think they know that! At least the governments of those countries do.

It’s the wacko factions within their borders that they’ve appeased for years to suit their own self-interests, and of which they’ve now lost control, which will eventually lead to their destruction.

]]> By: tommy1 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17663 tommy1 Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:37:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17663 I think that Israel needs to make it abundantly clear to the Muslim world that if it is ever attacked with nuclear weapons, Mecca and Medina will be wiped off the planet along with the large cities of other hostile nations such as Damascus, Tehran, Tripoli, etc. I think that Israel needs to make it abundantly clear to the Muslim world that if it is ever attacked with nuclear weapons, Mecca and Medina will be wiped off the planet along with the large cities of other hostile nations such as Damascus, Tehran, Tripoli, etc.

]]> By: ForYourEdification http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17638 ForYourEdification Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:16:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17638 I'm afraid that I have to agree with 'pullingmyhairout.' The U.S. IS going to force Israel's hand (by doing nothing and dragging out these ridiculous “talks”) because eventually, Israel will determine that it needs to bomb Iran to survive. But 'easy87' is also correct because if that happens, and I believe it will given present circumstances, the Mideast will indeed be plunged into widespread war. I’m afraid that I have to agree with ‘pullingmyhairout.’ The U.S. IS going to force Israel’s hand (by doing nothing and dragging out these ridiculous “talks”) because eventually, Israel will determine that it needs to bomb Iran to survive.

But ‘easy87′ is also correct because if that happens, and I believe it will given present circumstances, the Mideast will indeed be plunged into widespread war.

]]> By: pullingmyhairout http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17618 pullingmyhairout Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:18:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17618 Iran won't go for it. To their jihadist supporters, it will be like cohorting with the enemy. Israel will be forced to nuke them and that will be the end of that. Iran won’t go for it. To their jihadist supporters, it will be like cohorting with the enemy. Israel will be forced to nuke them and that will be the end of that.

]]> By: easy87us http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17604 easy87us Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:51:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17604 ForYourEdification, I don't think Bush would force Israel to attack Iran. If that happens, it will de-stabilize the entire middle east. Bush is trying to apply pressure on Russia and China,behind the scene, to hope for them to convince Iran to stop or else. Russia is meeting with that nut job now. As to how effective would this strategy be, I can say not very effective because it is not in Russia best interest to have a stable oil supply from middle east. Unless Israel is going to smuggle a couple nukes, through a third party, to the Chencheyn rebels if Russia won't stop Iran. Now that is what I would like to see. This is much better than any other options I know of. ForYourEdification, I don’t think Bush would force Israel to attack Iran. If that happens, it will de-stabilize the entire middle east.

Bush is trying to apply pressure on Russia and China,behind the scene, to hope for them to convince Iran to stop or else.
Russia is meeting with that nut job now. As to how effective would this strategy be, I can say not very effective because it is not in Russia best interest to have a stable oil supply from middle east.

Unless Israel is going to smuggle a couple nukes, through a third party, to the Chencheyn rebels if Russia won’t stop Iran. Now that is what I would like to see.

This is much better than any other options I know of.

]]> By: Ninth State » A Fork in the Road http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17570 Ninth State » A Fork in the Road Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:38:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17570 [...] Yup, more unsubstandiated fears on my part. Actually, wait: these are substantiated (go figure!). As Allahpundit from Hot Air, I too am worried about the provisions of the six-power package was delivered to Iran, and that Iran, surprise, surprise! revealed the contents of. Allahpundit asks, “did the U.S. throw Israel under the bus?” Why this question? Because the package calls for the “Elimination of WMDs in the Middle East.” Nuclear weapons are WMDs. Israel is in the Middle East, and has nuclear weapons. So would Israel, according to this provision, be required to completely scrap its nuclear weaponry? When Iran’s foreign minister Monouchehr Mottaki makes a slip like this, many in positions of power view the Holocaust the way they do, and many Muslim nations are okay with Iranian nukes and believe that they will use them against Israel, you have some very substantiated fears. [...] [...] Yup, more unsubstandiated fears on my part. Actually, wait: these are substantiated (go figure!). As Allahpundit from Hot Air, I too am worried about the provisions of the six-power package was delivered to Iran, and that Iran, surprise, surprise! revealed the contents of. Allahpundit asks, “did the U.S. throw Israel under the bus?” Why this question? Because the package calls for the “Elimination of WMDs in the Middle East.” Nuclear weapons are WMDs. Israel is in the Middle East, and has nuclear weapons. So would Israel, according to this provision, be required to completely scrap its nuclear weaponry? When Iran’s foreign minister Monouchehr Mottaki makes a slip like this, many in positions of power view the Holocaust the way they do, and many Muslim nations are okay with Iranian nukes and believe that they will use them against Israel, you have some very substantiated fears. [...]

]]> By: ForYourEdification http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17556 ForYourEdification Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:56:17 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17556 No one throws Israel under a bus! No one!!! Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 14, 2006 at 3:46 PM ================================= RIGHT! Which means that Bush's true intentions may be to ultimately force ISRAEL to attack Iran! Bush can help from the sidelines, silently, while Israel takes worldwide heat. Wouldn;t be the first time the U.S. did that, either. No one throws Israel under a bus! No one!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 14, 2006 at 3:46 PM

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RIGHT!

Which means that Bush’s true intentions may be to ultimately force ISRAEL to attack Iran! Bush can help from the sidelines, silently, while Israel takes worldwide heat.

Wouldn;t be the first time the U.S. did that, either.

]]> By: Dread Pirate Roberts VI http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17551 Dread Pirate Roberts VI Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:46:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17551 No one throws Israel under a bus! No one!!! No one throws Israel under a bus! No one!!!

]]> By: see-dubya http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17550 see-dubya Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:43:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17550 Why do we trust that Iran has accurately disclosed these terms? They have an interest in driving a wedge between Israel and the USA. It's quite likely we offered nothing of the sort. Why do we trust that Iran has accurately disclosed these terms? They have an interest in driving a wedge between Israel and the USA. It’s quite likely we offered nothing of the sort.

]]> By: LegendHasIt http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17548 LegendHasIt Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:42:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17548 Well, it has been my observation that SoS Condi is no great friend of Israel. Never have been able to get a handle on how President Bush REALLY feels about it. So, let's just say that I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Israel is 'thrown under the bus'. But until that becomes a fact, I'll continue to hold out hope that this is more of the 'poker playing' that the President can be so good at. Well, it has been my observation that SoS Condi is no great friend of Israel. Never have been able to get a handle on how President Bush REALLY feels about it.

So, let’s just say that I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Israel is ‘thrown under the bus’. But until that becomes a fact, I’ll continue to hold out hope that this is more of the ‘poker playing’ that the President can be so good at.

]]> By: ForYourEdification http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17547 ForYourEdification Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:40:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17547 The U.S. sold out EVERYONE when it decided to negotiate with terrorists. THAT’s when Israel and Americans were “sold out.” What was it Bush said? Oh, yeah. . . “We will not negotiate with terrorists.” That vow, it seems, was as solid as was his father’s “Read my lips, NO NEW TAXES!” And I do not think Iran is “bluffing.” Those running Iran, both secular and cleric, are deadly serious. And key, is that THEY ARE NUTS! We are repeating the mistakes that plunged us into World War II and no amount of appeasement disguised as diplomacy will change that. Nero fiddled while Rome burned, and so are we. The U.S. sold out EVERYONE when it decided to negotiate with terrorists. THAT’s when Israel and Americans were “sold out.”

What was it Bush said? Oh, yeah. . . “We will not negotiate with terrorists.” That vow, it seems, was as solid as was his father’s “Read my lips, NO NEW TAXES!”

And I do not think Iran is “bluffing.” Those running Iran, both secular and cleric, are deadly serious. And key, is that THEY ARE NUTS! We are repeating the mistakes that plunged us into World War II and no amount of appeasement disguised as diplomacy will change that.

Nero fiddled while Rome burned, and so are we.

]]> By: easy87us http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17542 easy87us Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:21:23 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17542 I want to say that we are not going to sell off Israel, but are we in control of the situation there? Over and over again I warn people that our true enemy is always been Russia. They are doing everything they can to de-stablize the middle east. EU is so damn dumb that they probably won't do a thing until the Slavic boots marching on their door step again. When there are mini wars at the Russia border, may be then they would take another look at their middle east policy. I want to say that we are not going to sell off Israel, but are we in control of the situation there?

Over and over again I warn people that our true enemy is always been Russia. They are doing everything they can to de-stablize the middle east. EU is so damn dumb that they probably won’t do a thing until the Slavic boots marching on their door step again.

When there are mini wars at the Russia border, may be then they would take another look at their middle east policy.

]]> By: EFG http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17534 EFG Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:05:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17534 Good post, but I just don't think that we are gonna sell out Israel. I figure we can finagle the wording on WMD free middle east. I mean, has Israel ever admitted to having WMDs? Yeah, I know Iran has never admitted (except for the Freudian Slip in a past HotAir post) to seeking WMDs, but I don't think that we are gonna start putting pressure on Israel to disarm. Just my prediction. The next few months will bear me out or reveal this prediction to be false. Good post, but I just don’t think that we are gonna sell out Israel. I figure we can finagle the wording on WMD free middle east. I mean, has Israel ever admitted to having WMDs? Yeah, I know Iran has never admitted (except for the Freudian Slip in a past HotAir post) to seeking WMDs, but I don’t think that we are gonna start putting pressure on Israel to disarm.

Just my prediction. The next few months will bear me out or reveal this prediction to be false.

]]> By: Defector01 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-17529 Defector01 Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:59:47 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/14/did-the-us-throw-israel-under-the-bus-in-its-nuke-proposal-to-iran/#comment-17529 The US did this before in Iraq in Gulf War I I still think this is the US's way of calling Iran's bluff (here's what you say you want, will you take it?). I think Israel is going to be ok but yeah the US wasn't talking to the Israelis about their nuke proposals or we could've heard the screaming from tel aviv here in San Diego The US did this before in Iraq in Gulf War I
I still think this is the US’s way of calling Iran’s bluff (here’s what you say you want, will you take it?). I think Israel is going to be ok but yeah the US wasn’t talking to the Israelis about their nuke proposals or we could’ve heard the screaming from tel aviv here in San Diego

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