Guantanamo Bay Suicides

posted at 10:31 am on June 13, 2006 by Bryan

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Boo Freakin Hoo indeed. I loved you throwing that out there on O’Reilly last night! Not as shocking as our friend Ann – who you did a good job defending by the way – but very appropriate.

Great Vent. I’d like to hear some more about the Marine in Camp Pendleton. I’ve confused his circumstance with that of the Marines from Haditha, but both stories deserve much more attention from the pro-Marine perspective. Pantano is right. Our troops deserve so much more support and grace than they’re getting…at least in the media.

Thanks again Michelle and the HotAir team. Very well done.

MT on June 13, 2006 at 10:47 AM

MM and the entire HotAir staff…great show!Pull no punches and you opponent will throw in the towel that much sooner. Way to go.The ugly fungus that is the movement to gorify these terrorists cannot stand the light of day, and the crew at Hot Air shines directly on them.Keep it up. I look forward to my next MM/Hot Air fix.

jcon96 on June 13, 2006 at 10:54 AM

We have choices to make. These prisoners are 1) criminals waiting for well publicized trials where they will have access to Ramsey Clark as a defense attorney, 2) prisoners of war who can be held until the war is over and their release is part of the post-war treaty or, 3) illegal combatants who did not wear uniforms and did not observe the rules of the Geneva Convention.

IMHO,..
These are not common criminals and are not entitled to trials, attorneys, or live interviews with Katie Couric. They are not legal combatants whose release can be linked to a peace treaty with a nation-state. They are terrorist scum who are not deserving of our sympathies. I hope they enjoy hurricane season after hurrican season. I do agree that Gitmo is too confining. As soon as Castro dies maybe they will be moved to the luxury suites of one of his political prisons?

mkstach on June 13, 2006 at 10:54 AM

With any luck, the suicide 3 were autopsied &/or embalmed before release for burial.

heroyalwhyness on June 13, 2006 at 11:04 AM

wonder if we could slip tiny GPS trackers into them, then just let them all go free.
Then we can see where they go and if its someplace like a terrorist training camp we just send a few F-16’s…

Wyrd on June 13, 2006 at 11:06 AM

Great Vent, as usual. I would love to know what this country has ever done to make the left hate it so much. What makes a child raised in a good home spit in his mother’s face? What the hell is wrong with these idiots? It has to be a deep character flaw or a mental illness.

ecamorg on June 13, 2006 at 11:06 AM

OReilly forgot to find out the most recent menu for their lunches. Last time I cooked some Orange Chicken with garlic sauce and my wife loved it! I am curious in what sort of exortic foods they are serving now to our dear and beloved detainees.

I only heard that the cost of their food is about three times higher than what we serve our troops.

I just want to find out whose idea was it so I can grill the dicken out of his num skull.

easy87us on June 13, 2006 at 11:06 AM

Yep, it was pretty clear that the woman opposite you on O’Reilly really does want a team of taxpayer paid lawyers and years long trials costing millions of taxpayer dollars for each one of these terrorist Muslims. She made the point that they are not POW’s, but then suggested that they should have the same rights as any American citizen. She, and the other liberal democrats like her are simply mental.

Not that O’Reilly gets it either, in his major effort to be what he likes to call “fair and balanced”, he more often than not treats liberal democrat twits like they actually have a valid argument that means something, and tries to reason with them, rather than treating what they present as it should be treated, which is laughed at based on the ignorance of it.

It all goes back to the sad fact that somewhere in the 60’s, the good God fearing people of the United States lost their ability to call something exactly what it is, and deal with it accordingly. Sedition, as in aiding and abetting the enemy, is clearly what the main stream media and the liberal democrats are doing, and it’s as simple as that. It’s not rocket science, and they really make no attempt at all to even try to hide their traitorous ways anymore. It’s all cloaked in “free speech” mumbo jumbo. Of course, that “free speech” doesn’t apply to Ann Coulter, oh no, she is the “devil” for stating the truth according to their pea sized brains.

One thing you do have to acknowledge is that the liberal left, and the evil that they unwittingly(hopefully it is done in pure ignorance) aid and support, has gotten very good at using our own laws and morals against us. It’s a whole new battle, no longer just for the mind of Americans, but for their souls too.

NRA4Freedom on June 13, 2006 at 11:12 AM

Does anyone know where the support is for MM’s comment that Marines are being held, without charges, in shackles? I can’t I write my Congressman and express outrage without supporting documentation!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 13, 2006 at 11:17 AM

Check the Marine Corp Times, DPR. That’s where I got the screen shot–I think I Googled “marine pendleton shackles” to get the story.

Bryan on June 13, 2006 at 11:19 AM

Great Vent Michelle! As always, right on target!

The issue here is not the behavior of our enemies but the actions of the Main Stream Media (MSM).

We are in a time when the Media is a more powerful weapon in political decisions than many military units or activities. We must recognize that propaganda and efforts to manipulate public opinion in our country are important and effective weapons.

Our MSM, so dominated by the left, seems to actively use any propaganda and event manipulation they can find or fabricate to the detriment of the nation if it can detract from their domestic political opponents. MSM propaganda that detracts from their domeistic political opponents seems to be their only objective in many cases. Our “own” MSM has become a potent weapon for the enemy by favoring partisan propaganda and not being held to accurate reporting of the facts.

I believe that many would agree with these points but our action to counter propaganda by the left dominated MSM seems limited. We can:

1) Recognize that MSM reporting in many cases is propaganda for the left. This may be particularly true for the New York Times, NBC, AP, Los Angeles Times, and others. We need a list to identify the “good, bad, and ugly”.

2) Become aware of even subtle techniques used by the MSM to distort fact to their agenda. This includes not only the events that are covered or not covered but also their use of terms (undocumented immigrant as opposed to illegal alien).

3) Patronize those outlets of news that are more consistent with factual reporting, in my opinion, such as Hot Air, the Wall Street Journal, Fox News, and the Christian Science Monitor (again we need a list).

Michelle, Ann Coulter, and FOX seem to be most effective in countering such MSM propaganda. Thank you Michelle!

omegaram on June 13, 2006 at 11:20 AM

What is the motivation of the MSM for wanting to close Gitmo and have show trials for all these war criminals? What do they want to accomplish?

d1carter on June 13, 2006 at 11:21 AM

“What is the motivation of the MSM for wanting to close Gitmo and have show trials for all these war criminals? What do they want to accomplish?

d1carter on June 13, 2006 at 11:21 AM”

Closing of Gitmo has two immediate effect.

(1) it is equivalent to admit that Gitmo is a mistake. The political implication is huge.
(2) to remove an effective tool to fight terrorism. We need Gitmo to hold them terrorists that are not protected by Geneva Convention. By closing it we have no way to hold them terrorists so we cannot detain them!

Now don’t you hate them Democrats? They sure are tricky…LOL…

easy87us on June 13, 2006 at 11:31 AM

Thanks Bryan! Rounds out! Rounds out! Let’s see what my Representative, Curt Weldon, says about this.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1851659.php

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 13, 2006 at 11:31 AM

Michelle – you’re a GENIUS

Best Vent yet – you are a gift.

I don’t know where we’d be without you, your aurguments are so strong that even as just ONE PERSON – you can counterbalance an entire network of lying traitorous liberal media…

Innocent victims my ASS, these prisoners are Terrorist Jihadists who would gladly blow up our kid’s school buses, but the liberals want to let them go free.

Arlen Specter is leading the charge to bring these no good assassin bastards TO TRIAL!! He’s politicizing this and for what gain?? F.ck him! I say let them all kill themselves! Our courts will never execute them!

Thanks for showing America the true face of the prisoners in Guantanomo!

THIS VENT DESERVED A MEDAL!!!

Richard Davis on June 13, 2006 at 11:32 AM

The story of human history is nothing more than a very long version of the elementary school game, King of the Hill.

The lust for power is the only motivating force driving the madness we see displayed by socialist sympathists.

When the US military flexes its muscle in any way, every other organization in the world is forced to concede that their power pales by comparision. They have no way of getting to the top of the hill while it is held firm through the strength of our military.

Driven by their desire to be more powerful, they will seize any opportunity to diminish the US military. During the 60’s and 70’s, the feckless American socialists realized a certain amount of success through media emasculation of the US miltary. That template has evolved into the throttling doctrine now employed by all organizations, cults, factions, etc. bent on removing the US from its position of world power.

ztep86 on June 13, 2006 at 11:47 AM

Very well said Michelle
I’ve had a few people in the office weep over the suicides of these detainees. When I said “boo…..freakin….hoo” to that, they went nuclear. Then I responded “when’s the last time you got this upset over an American dying?” with no response from them.
Keep speaking truth Michelle

Defector01 on June 13, 2006 at 11:58 AM

Excellent Vent.

We NEED Gitmo. I understand that the threat of being sent there is a valuable tool in convincing captured jihadis in Iraq and Afghanistan to spill their guts about their murderous organizations. This is war. We need every weapon at our disposal to fight this evil enemy.

Who cares if a few of them off themselves? To borrow a phrase: Screw them!

speed647 on June 13, 2006 at 12:02 PM

Allowing the cultists held at Guantanamo to commit suicide, although a pleasant thought, is not a good idea. The act of suicide is their last-ditch effort of exercising a measure of power over their enemies. They mustn’t be afforded that opportunity. The military’s efforts to prevent suicide is not an act of compassion, it is a battle tactic to keep the enemy powerless.

May the soldiers assigned to this thankless task continue to be successful as they man their front within the walls of Guantanamo.

ztep86 on June 13, 2006 at 12:02 PM

I am satisfied to know that Gitmo indeed is a punishment to them because at least three chose to die than to live in Gitmo.

We have just saved enough money to support 9 more soldiers.

easy87us on June 13, 2006 at 12:06 PM

Oh Michelle you’re so HOT! Oh Michelle you’re a genius, Oh Michelle what a great vent! Oh Michelle you look soooo good in jeans!

CUT THE CRAP! GET OFF YOUR 4th POINT OF CONTACT AND STOP WASTING INK! You people are like preppies at a G-D strip joint! MM’s not going to date you and you are not going home with her for dinner so quit suckin up!!!

MM puts it out there for you and you are expected to do something about it. So, Get Up! Hook Up! Stand in the Door! and get to emailing your Senators and Representative. If you don’t know who they are try: http://www.senate.gov, http://www.house.gov

Tell them you are outraged over the inhumane treatment of our Armed Forces Personnel and attach the link below to the Marine Corps Times article.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1851659.php

(PS. I emailed Dunkin Donuts regarding their policy against hiring illegal aliens and received $5 in DD coupons. Did anyone else?)

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 13, 2006 at 12:14 PM

Well,

Hard to feel sorry for those who kill anyone who instantly doesn’t agree with them

EricPWJohnson on June 13, 2006 at 12:20 PM

Michelle: Have you no compassion? Do you not fell their pain? You are a hard-hearted woman. Michelle you must be one of those right-wing nuts. I would go as far as to say you would like to see the US win the war on terror. It won’t be long before you end up on the list of the “Ten Most Hated People” of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Keep up the good work. Michelle your my kind of woman, “sugar and spice and everything nice”.

birdman on June 13, 2006 at 12:52 PM

Right on, MM and friends!

dman on June 13, 2006 at 1:21 PM

birdman, these were the very same people who jumped for joy when 9/11 happened. Laughed with glee when Nick Berg was savagedly beheaded while alive and captured on film now circulating on the internet. And would not think twice to kill innocent people, even if it means Iraqis, Egyptians, Jordanians and the likes. They don’t care other than to make sure to get people like you to get on their knees and bow to Allah.

Like she said, “Boo Freakin Hoo.” Remember, the real people who show compassion are certainly not the three terrorists who hung themselves.

I guess that means we shouldn’t be jumping for joy for Zarqawi’s death, too?

Boo freakin hoo.

Kokonut on June 13, 2006 at 1:47 PM

MIT ussually averages a suicide or two every year. Might be time for the international community to call for it’s shutdown.

Richsamg on June 13, 2006 at 1:52 PM

Kokonut: The left always shows compassion for our enemy not for Nick Burg, not for the over 3,ooo souls who died on 9-11, not for our servicemen and women. What I said; Michelle have you no compassion etc.? This is how the left views us. This is how the left tries to paint us. I agree with Michelle and you “Boo Freakin Hoo”. The three who are taking a “dirt nap” were hate filled sickos who would like nothing better than to see WESTERN CILIVISATION destroyed.

birdman on June 13, 2006 at 2:07 PM

birdman, right. It’s downright scary, too! Yet the Left remains clueless of the hole they are digging for themselves…and us, too.

Kokonut on June 13, 2006 at 2:19 PM

Oh look, the lovely pro-life “all life is sacred” compassionate conservatives are at it again! LOL!

Let me see if I can get this straight. If someone with a chronic disease chooses to take their own life, that’s wrong and “against God’s will.”

But if suspected terrorists do it, that’s ok and something to laugh at.

I don’t know which bumper sticker I like better:

“GOP: Consistency is so Overrated!”
“GOP: Pro-Life…until you leave the womb”
“GOP: Party of Death”

better off blue on June 13, 2006 at 2:19 PM

I guess we should close Gitmo and every prison in the U.S. in which a suicide has taken place. How many of these theorectical fantasy world liberals would be wiling to house criminals in their own homes? I’m thinking little to none.

Will peacenik lefties EVER stop complaining and whining and splitting every hair possible in an attempt to smear anything not labelled ‘liberal,” “tolerant,” “peaceful,” “clintonian?”

My own young children have never even come close to matching the malcontented whining coming from the loony left.

Metro on June 13, 2006 at 2:23 PM

OK! Enough already! How long before we see the “Boo Freakin Hoo” tee shirt, sweat pants, parka, floor mat, thong…ok maybe not the thong!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 13, 2006 at 2:23 PM

Kokonut: A great example of what I said, Better off Blue.

birdman on June 13, 2006 at 2:26 PM

Better off Blue…you are so cute. I like your comment because it is challenging.

OK, let me give it a shot.

GOP is pro life. The pro-life action included two parts.

(1) To stop killing fetus
(2) To stop killing of good people.

Please let me focus on the second part. Good means law abiding people, not convicted murderers and enemies of USA. In order to protect the good people getting killed, we hunt down murderers and terrorists and terminate them when allowed by law. Killing one of them indeed may save many lives afterward. Isn’t that pro life? I think we are pretty consistent.

easy87us on June 13, 2006 at 2:32 PM

The Military should have the right to place a gag order on GITMO.

What happens at GITMO must stay at GITMO.

If we trust our Military as we claim, then give it the right to protect us by taking care of our enemies.

That goes to GITMO and also by letting the Military judge its own personnel, fairly, according to its own procedures without prejudging any soldier in the Media.

Those who claim defending the enemy’s human rights are the first ones who will be killed by the enemy.

They will know it when it happens.

Idiots!

CatholicConservative on June 13, 2006 at 2:35 PM

Dread Pirate Roberts:

Excellent point! I concur – Michelle does look awfully nice in blue jeans! ;)

Hey, has BetterOffBrainless shared the details of his heroic military service yet? How come I never get an answer to that question?

Professor Blather on June 13, 2006 at 2:42 PM

I thin Boo-Freaking-Hoo clothing being sold on HotAir would be a good idea. Really!

birdman on June 13, 2006 at 2:43 PM

Michelle, one of your best Vents yet. Thank you for pointing out how biased some human rights/civil rights activists have become in that they are now terrorist apologists, and completely un-American.

The fact that no one is considering the conditions of the Marines, while giving all this press to the Gitmo affair, is proof of where their loyalties lie.

But then again if they criticize HR violations in Gitmo but ignore those in Cuba I really can’t ask much of them.

Keep up the good fight!

LaVentanita on June 13, 2006 at 3:00 PM

We should all send 15 feet of 550 (parachute) cord to Gitmo, anyone have a good address?

GaryC on June 13, 2006 at 3:01 PM

better off blue: If you are looking for a bumper sticker, how about “No Better Friend No Worse Enemy”: United States Marine Corps. Professor Blather: You have a very, very, very long wait for better off GUTLESS to give you an answer.

birdman on June 13, 2006 at 3:03 PM

LaVentanita: Ah yes one of the great heros of the left Fidel Castro. Cuba a liberal utopia, just ask Jimmy Carter.

birdman on June 13, 2006 at 3:09 PM

Seems “leftwing unhinged moonbat” Bill O’Reilly has a problem with’s Michelle’s pro-death attitude.

MALKIN: And really, the reaction to the suicides should be, “Boo-freakin-hoo.”

O’REILLY: Well, I don’t know about that. I don’t want anybody, you know, killing themselves, but I do believe it was a political statement. Anyway —

MALKIN: Exactly.

O’REILLY: If I were in Guantanamo Bay, and I couldn’t get out — and these guys will never get out, believe me — I might commit suicide too.

better off blue on June 13, 2006 at 3:25 PM

parachute cord nothing…heck, sub-out Kavorkian.

johnnyU on June 13, 2006 at 4:09 PM

Better off blue. You should take lessons on the difference in killing innocents and the death of an animal.I myself would not care if the report came out the young Marines at Gitmo had wrung these bastards necks. Save all of us the time and expense for caring for them. I have more compassion for the animals in the local pound. They did not make the choice to be there. These dirtbags just south of me did. You will not get any sympathy here.

jcon96 on June 13, 2006 at 4:50 PM

Thanks for the Vent Michelle,
I love the way the freaks come out to defend their guilty minds.
I say let all them freaks die at gitmo I don’t want any more of my husbands money going to them and their freakin happiness.
Kill them all and let the sorry a** liberals follow them 2.
If any left freak don’t like it, I say stick it where the sun don’t shine get the hell out of this country ..
You left wing nutjobs are think your just trying to make it better for you and yours but you’re actually screwing it up for everyone, so BACK OFF!!
Move your butts out of America and make the europeans country cease fire and learn the ways or their religion. Give them your money beacuse we won’t give up that easy, we have a good fight to win and we’ll kick your butt..
We love the Big MOABS here we love GUNS and we love to have a face to face with you..Just a small one on one..LOL
How about it..Any takers !!!!

alyce on June 13, 2006 at 5:14 PM

“Boo Freakin Hoo”.

Well the search is over. We have the rightful successor to Edward R Murrow.

honora on June 13, 2006 at 5:31 PM

“Boo Freakin’ Hoo”

My husband and I laughed out loud at this last night. How anyone can be “sad” over this is amazing. They chose to do it, no one made them. Well, maybe the lefties will say they were made to, it’s just a big cover up!! Oh no!

StephC on June 13, 2006 at 5:41 PM

blown off balls – a man with a chronic illness will not harm me. A jihadist will. I mourn for the first.

b.o.b. – do you know what a Jihad is? Have you read anything about the Islam religion? Are you aware that Chapter 9 of the Koran commands followers to commit Jihad? Do you know Muslims have been actively waging Jihad since AD began? Suggest you read Andrew Bostom “Legacy of Jihad”

b.o.b. – riddle me this, what is it about the Koran that makes it so easy for followers to “misunderstand it” to the point that they become human bombs and kill innocent people “in the name of Allah”??

b.o.b. – I know, deep inside, you want to be one of us. You come here, you visit, admit it – there’s something about us you like… it’s okay….. the left won’t even know you’re gone… come on….. we’ll help..

Liberals Anonymous

Richard Davis on June 13, 2006 at 7:01 PM

Well, gee what a bit of fresh air to see the left and their allies in the MSM (sorry one in the same) crying over the dirt nap these 3 SOB’s took as a way not to protest the treatment in Gitmo, funny how they are being treated almost if not better than the majority of other American criminals locked up, but as a PR stunt in an effort to try and close Gitmo. Funny but for all the karping of the “international community” over Gitmo, how many do you actually believe would like us to send the inmates to their countries? My guess is I’d die before any other nation would openly accept having them sent there and that includes blinders wearing Europe.

Currently 3 less terorist mouths to house and feed on the American dime. Nice bit of news MM.

Terlizzi999 on June 13, 2006 at 7:15 PM

birdman & kokonut- ditto

better off blue response is classic!
it did not have one once of common sense.

he’s worried about these 3 scumbags(who’s only intent is to kill as many americans as posssible-men women and children)
but could care less about an innocent child.

he’s worried about these scumbags rights but i bet is first in line to convict of marines of abuse.

Michelle- you rock!!!!!
i like ann but love you

mike hale on June 13, 2006 at 8:04 PM

Hmmm….

(add name of your “favorite” Liberal) – Boo Freakn Hoo.

Let them interpret whatever they want with that.

Kokonut on June 13, 2006 at 9:07 PM

Another stunning vent..

zeluna on June 13, 2006 at 9:21 PM