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Terror raid in Canada rolls up 17 jihadis

posted at 1:54 pm on June 3, 2006 by Allahpundit
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The one day this week I sleep in…

If you’re as late to the story as I am, get caught up with Michelle, then Pajamas Media, then the Counterterrorism Blog, which notes that jihadis have been recruiting homegrown Muslims precisely because they’re harder to detect. Judeoscope has the names of the twelve adult suspects; the other five are under 18. Kids are harder to detect too, no?

The cops recovered three tonnes of ammonium nitrate. McVeigh gutted the Murrah building with one tonne.

Meanwhile, Dave from Garfield Ridge wonders what this does to Iqbal Sacranie’s theory.

More details as I find them.

Update: The Toronto Star says the suspects trained at a camp north of Toronto.

A terror training camp. North of Toronto.

Update: More details from the Star:

Most were Canadian citizens or residents. Police described them as coming from a broad “strata” of society. Some are students, some are employed, some are unemployed. The adults range in age from 19 to 43.

The same Star article says there’s no word yet on possible targets, but they have ruled out the TTC (the Toronto Transit Commissions). Which makes sense. You don’t need three tonnes of explosives to take out a subway car.

So where were they headed? The cops seem to have an idea, but they’re not saying. Captain Ed floats a few theories, the most notable of which is this: “They appeared to have particular interest in the CSIS due to media reports of racial and religious profiling.” CSIS is the Canadian equivalent, roughly, of NSA.

Update: As usual, contrary to socialist dogma, the suspects weren’t poor and uneducated. Says the Star, “One was a math and chemistry whiz from Scarborough who grew up to become a 22-year-old husband and father.”

The same article in the Star provides the list of targets, according to CSIS sources:

[T]he Toronto headquarters of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service was one of them. So were the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa and a smattering of other high-profile, heavily populated areas…

According to sources, the suspects allegedly planned to target the spy service because many of them had encountered agents early in the investigation, when they were interviewed and put under surveillance. They also were allegedly angered by media reports accusing CSIS of racial profiling of Muslims…

Some of the group’s members had even been spotted taking notes around the building, and at least one had reportedly visited the basement, one source told the Star.

Read the whole article. It’s the most detailed news account available right now. It also notes a U.S. connection:

Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen of Bangladeshi descent who had attended high school in Ontario, and Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, a student at Georgia Tech, boarded a Greyhound bus in Atlanta on March 6, 2005, and travelled to Toronto to meet “like-minded Islamic extremists,” a U.S. court document alleges.

At the time the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force was watching the U.S. pair, Sadequee, according to court documents, was already on a no-fly list. But they crossed the border uneventfully and met three people associated with the group the Canadian authorities were watching.

Ahmed later told authorities that the meetings were to discuss U.S. locations suitable for a terrorist strike, including oil refineries and military bases, court documents state.

Canadian authorities insist that the suspects arrested today weren’t targeting the U.S. Stay tuned.

Update: Poor, uneducated, underprivileged, disenfranchised:

Rocco Galati, lawyer for two of the Mississauga suspects, said Ahmad Ghany is a 21-year-old health sciences graduate from McMaster University in Hamilton. He was born in Canada, the son of a medical doctor who emigrated from Trinidad and Tobago in 1955.

Shareef Abdelhaleen is a 30-year-old unmarried computer programmer of Egyptian descent, Galati said. He emigrated from Egypt at the age of 10 with his father who is now an engineer on contract with Atomic Energy of Canada, the lawyer said.

Update: How bad is the problem? Al Jazeera (of all places) quotes the director of CSIS saying there are 350 “high-level targets” inside the country, and 50 to 60 separate groups linked to Al Qaeda.

Update: A lot of bloggers, including Instapundit, are speculating about a connection between these arrests and yesterday’s raid in London. Why? Every study of Al Qaeda these days emphasizes its decentralization. Supposedly there’s very little command and control; there might not even be an “organzation” per se anymore. As the RCMP said today, the suspects were inspired by AQ’s ideology but they appear to have been operating freelance. Just like the 7/7 bombers in London.

If AQ is calling the shots, then nabbing Osama and Zawahiri is paramount because it lets you pull the tree up out of the ground by its trunk. But if they’re not calling the shots, then you’re not looking at one tree with many roots. You’re looking at a forest. Much scarier, in my opinion.

Update: Meanwhile, in Britain, the big story isn’t the suspected chemical weapons plot but the fact that one of the suspects was wounded in the shoulder by a policeman.

Update: I was wondering when someone on the left would accuse the new conservative PM of staging the raid to “frighten” the electorate. Here you go, via Pajamas Media. Your quote of the day:

The only time Paul Martin ever tried to inflict this kind of fear and anxiety on us was during the last election. And considering what Harper’s been up to lately, I’m thinking maybe it wasn’t just a hoax after all.

And more from Canada’s answer to DU, via Kate at Small Dead Animals.

Update: A new detail from the CBC:

Bill Blair, the city’s police chief, told CBC News that officials had gathered information about dates chosen for the attacks, but he refused to provide details.

Update: America’s answer to DU, i.e., DU, also suspects “George W. Harper” of freaky deaky fear-mongering mind-control shenanigans. Ace has the link.

Update: For whatever this is worth, the World’s Most Alarmist Website says the RCMP ain’t done yet:

11:37 AM UPDATE: Canadian authorities arrested a dozen men, five juveniles and expect to arrest that many more in what authorities are calling the largest arrest of terrorists in Canada. All of the men were arrested in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) and numerous weapons, ammunition, explosives, and at least three tons of ammonium nitrate was taken from an area north of Toronto.

Update: Let the seething and whining begin:

Handcuffed to one another and wearing leg irons the detainees stood silently while the justice of the peace remanded them into custody until June 6 when they are scheduled to reappear.

Through their lawyers, some complained about the conditions where they were held Friday night and asked that they be given copies of the Qur’an while in custody.

Meanwhile, outside the Brampton courthouse, a portrait of cultural assimilation:

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Update: The Counterterrorism Blog notes that some of the arrests were made near the giant nuclear power plant at Pickering. Update: Wow. SeeDubya has a long memory.

Update: Reader Jacob K. e-mails to correct me: “The CSE (Communications Security Establishment) is more of a Canadian equivalent of the NSA than CSIS is.” I guess the proper analogy for CSIS is CIA or MI5.

Update: The Muslim Canadian Congress congratulates the RCMP on a job well done. And here’s an interesting perspective from an article by the Canadian Press:

“One of the things I’ve been hearing talked about for a couple of years now is the jihad generation. These kids are no longer being recruited in the mosques, they’re trying to (recruit) them outside of the mosques because a lot of the elders, a lot of the imams, don’t approve of that sort of thing,” Thompson said.

Update: The National Post looks at root causes. The Internet figures prominently.

Update: The thread is now being updated here.


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Excellent work Canada, glad to see you are with us in the war on terror after all.

Snake307 on June 3, 2006 at 2:54 PM

Congratulations to the Canadians for nabbing these swine.
Perhaps now more Canadians will awaken to the danger in their own country.

Abigail Adams on June 3, 2006 at 2:55 PM

It’s about time people in this country, and around the World understood that we cannot play nice nice with the Islemo madmen.

birdman on June 3, 2006 at 2:57 PM

It’s going to take fools of this ilk blowing up places in Canada to get them truly involved in this war against idiocy, and likewise to bring the United States back to reality that not all the killing is going on in the medieval sandpile called Iraq.

I’m beginning to wonder if mass deportation of Muslims ISN’T a good idea after all. Of course, it wouldn’t be politically correct, but lives would be saved if this raid today is any indication. Hmmm. Probably politically correct is the way to go, until the next building blows up in America. THEN we’ll see…

clyde on June 3, 2006 at 3:00 PM

How long before Canadian officials hold a press conference and announce they will no longer use any racial profiling? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see them appease these terrorists. I mean, they wouldn’t have planned the bombings if it wasn’t for racial profiling right?

Here’s to hoping I’m wrong.

Capitalist Infidel on June 3, 2006 at 3:05 PM

clyde I’m afraid your right. Political correctness will only get more people killed. The MSM and the libs are doing a great disservice to free and decent people everywhere.
“Unholly Allience”, thats what it is.

birdman on June 3, 2006 at 3:10 PM

I wonder how much the MSM will talk about how the CSIS program is alot like the dreaded NSA wiretap program. Or how Canada is one of the more pacifistic democratic countries out there was still targeted. It is good to see that 2 different Canadian agencies (neither known for their co-operation) worked together to stop what potentially could of been a Canadian 9-11.

Creed on June 3, 2006 at 3:22 PM

Canada can find and arrest 17 terrorists, but George Bush is unable to find a single illegal alien Mexican among 12 million to 20 million.

Who is harder to find?

Where there is a will, there is a way. Where there IS NO WILL, there is no way.

ForYourEdification on June 3, 2006 at 4:01 PM

“Update: Meanwhile, in Britain, the big story isn’t the suspected chemical weapons plot but the fact that one of the suspects was wounded in the shoulder by a policeman.”

Until the terrorists target the headquarters of the NYT, BBC, CBC, and their related ilk (and what are the chances of that?), we will continue to read distorted headlines & articles and see the ugliest possible pictures of any series.

Thus, let’s continue to target them intensely with our keyboards and our votes.

Entelechy on June 3, 2006 at 4:18 PM

This doesn’t bode well for the liberals in Canada and the U.S. Even if work was on-going during the Paul Martin reign, the raid was executed during Mr. Harper’s – and he has better relations with President Bush. We will probably soon find out more on this joint Northern-American effort.

The Canadian masses are just as assured as are the American ones that they have strong and stable leaders when it comes to security and fighting terror.

This will enrage the leftie media across the globe and will bring out the ACLU-like forces. Voila! Success!

Entelechy on June 3, 2006 at 4:27 PM

It would be interesting to note if any of these evil activities were cordinated at the local Mosque… If so, I think a valid argument can be made that every Mosque in North American needs to be closely monitored for hate speech and violent activites.

gmoonster on June 3, 2006 at 5:10 PM

“jihadis have been recruiting homegrown Muslims precisely because they’re harder to detect”

What does that tell you but that all muslims are potential terrorists. If I was in charge of homeland security, all the mosques in the country would be bugged because I believe there is where they, the home grown, will get their Manchurian candidate inspiration.

docdave on June 3, 2006 at 5:21 PM

I have a friend in Toronto that I’ll be visiting next weekend and she’s yelled at me about how “no one hates us” and that’s why Canada has been spared attack.

Note: The Toronto Film Festival is in September. How many Lefty films bashing America will be shown without a thought about how they could’ve been blown up by the jihadis in Canada, eh?

DirkBelig on June 3, 2006 at 5:42 PM

While I compliment Canadian police and officials, perhaps those terrorists would have never been there if Canada had a sane immigration policy. WHOOPS! Neither do we!

If Charles Bronson were alive, he’d likely star in a new “Death Wish” movie. We could name it “Death Wish America.”

What could be more appropriate?

Virtually every terrorist act in today’s world is perpetrated by Muslims. So what do we do? We OUTLAW profiling of Muslims, REFUSE to restrict visas from Islamic countries, and HAND OUT work, visitor and business visas like they are prizes from a CrackerJax box. . .

Call it “Death Wish America!”

ForYourEdification on June 3, 2006 at 5:49 PM

After living in Canada for a few years, I walked away from my Canadian friends after the attacks in Sept. 2001. Talks about how the US asked for it and how we’re making such a big deal about it left me wanting to reach across the table and beat some sense into people that I thought were close friends.

This type of story hopefully shows these schmucks that no Western, Christian based, non Islamic nation is safe from Jihad insane, fascist, loons and thanks to the USA, they will probably never experience what we Yanks did on our own soil.

Might be time to get the Canadian military over 10K members and join the fight.

Hening on June 3, 2006 at 6:36 PM

Liberal Guilt knows no bounds or borders. Let’s get the Trailer Park Boys on the case!

Doug on June 3, 2006 at 7:30 PM

…its been asked…”It’s also interesting that this happened at almost the same time as the major bust in London. So what’s cooking here in the United States?” (Thx Glenn Reynolds)
..Huge amounts of explosives can only be distributed by large trucks. Tractor trailers, Mac trucks, big rigs whatever you wish to call them. Remember the Tractor Tralier driving schools recently, maybe in Missouri? Arabs learning to drive from Arab owned driving schools.Plus dozens of these schools around the country teach anyone to drive big rigs. Just like learning to fly big airplanes. Anyone have stats and figures on this? This, IMO, is where it will come from. TRUCKS!

shooter on June 3, 2006 at 7:55 PM

There’s a certain irony at work here. The more the Islamists try to, or God forbid, successfully attack the West, the more the West will wake up to the intolerance and violence that seems to be inherent in the Islamic faith.

gmoonster on June 3, 2006 at 8:03 PM

“Through their lawyers, some complained about the conditions where they were held Friday night and asked that they be given copies of the Qur’an while in custody.”

Nothing like cuddling up with the ‘mein-koran-mpf’ while in prison. “Let’s see, what did Mohammed say about those virgins?”

WC on June 3, 2006 at 8:22 PM

It seems that the 17 terrorists were planning to destroy only Canadian targets. So much for the tush-kissing appeasement theory. A mad dog doesn’t care whether you like it or not.

MaiDee on June 3, 2006 at 8:32 PM

Somehow, I think that if the terrorists blew up the headquarters of the NYT, CBS, the BBC, and Reuters in a simultaneous terrorist sploydefest, the survivors would grab their ankles and say, “thank you sir, may I have another”

Ellen on June 4, 2006 at 5:24 AM

The new conservative PM set all this up with the help of Halliburton so he could oppress Canadian Muslims. It’s so obvious.

Tom McLaughlin on June 4, 2006 at 7:28 AM

Check out the New York Times today (Sunday) for their idiotic politically-correct reporting, which states the 17 men arrested are of

SOUTH ASIAN descent.

Right. SOUTH ASIAN. In God’s great name, how did these people at the Times ever get in the position of being able to buy newsprint and ink by the ton? Literary terrorists in their own right. Probably all have pictures of Neville Chamberlain on their walls.

clyde on June 4, 2006 at 7:40 AM

Ellen and Tom, thanks for the laugh.

So now these punk ass terr … um, ’suspects’, are complaining about conditions in jail. Unfriggin’ believable, yet totally expected. Just like the 7/7 conspirators who, when surrounded by cops, yelled out “I have my rights!”

Tony737 on June 4, 2006 at 8:22 AM

clyde, perhaps there’s a shortage of letters like ‘j’ and ‘k’ in their arsenal of movable type. How else can the the New York Times fail to print obvious words like ‘jihadi’ and ‘Pakistani’?

RD on June 4, 2006 at 11:16 AM

Isn’t that the brainwashed Manson girls under those veils?

speed647 on June 4, 2006 at 1:02 PM

“Update: The Toronto Star says the suspects trained at a camp north of Toronto.”

So no one realized these guys werent dere fer the walleyes?
Sheesh.
signed
a Minnesotan who woulda thunk something was amiss at Camp Kissimiheinie.
Whatadeal.

lizzee on June 4, 2006 at 8:00 PM

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