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Perhaps you are right about conservatives being marginalized becasue they are a tiny minority. Considering the land slide victory of President Kerry, and the fact that the dems currently control the house and the senate I may have to concede that point.

I do think they have a ring of MASTERS running the propaganda machine for the liberals through a few websites.

Like Soros’ MoveOn’org, it is ” we pay you we own you.”kind of operation.

One people, one voice. From coast to coast, from NY Time to Hollywood, from Yale to Princeton, from Katie Couric to Tim Russert, from Pelosi to Schumer.

So much for the freedom of speech inside the Democratic Party and the liberal circles. Look at Joe Lieberman! That poor guy has been skinned alive by his own people!

I cannot imagine what would happen if we let the liberals take over this country!

Time for sobering thoughts.

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Do you liberal see how we go against Bush on almost..everything?

But, being a passionate liberal, you cannot question your masters. Remember the famous quote ” we pay you we own you.”?

I call that “plantation” mentalia.

It really is. So please don’t give Michelle a hard time until you can be fair and balanced.

Do you have a list of stories fabricated by NY Times?

I am just interested to know whether you are a fair and balance monitor on both sides or you just want to go after conservatives.

By the way, good one on OReilly.

I still don’t understand what your point is. Is it that it’s OK to lie because everybody does it? Or that it’s Ok to lie to millions of people, but not billions of people?

My point (as I stated in a previous post) is that Michelle should examine the network she appears on (Fox) with the same critical eye she casts on the rest of the MSM.

I did not take issue with the accuracy of Michelle’s stories. IMO, they are minor with the exception of the GM story. A woman in a canoe in a few inches of water? Sure it’s funny but it hardly rises to the level of the lies on Fox (see below). And I too question the ethics of networks misrepresenting themselves and sending people undercover to get a story. Although the results can be interesting.

Fox lies about White House vandalism:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1689

O’Reilly’s show is an opinion show but he at least should try to get his facts straight:
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/misinformer.htm

I think the real-looking orange-flame-on-black would make a better opener for the videos than the current, inverted blue-on-white one.

“you right wing-nuts”

Wow people, I guess we truly are lucky that Vanya doesn’t believe in “name calling”!

His argument has substance. Where is yours?

I have become so fatigued by the lefty’s personal attacks and vagueries (I really have lost interest in debating their babble). I do recognize, however, that when you don’t have facts to point out in support of your argument, there is no other way to feign any base for your position.

So why bother with them? They are not part of the solution… why expand their role as part of the problem?

To answer my own query, it is probably because in these most serious of times in our history, their ridiculous stances provide us with some form of entertainment and humor… albeit, pretty sick and tragic humor. There is nothing else there to be derived.

In that spirit, I still await her ‘googled other people’s answers’ to where O’Reilly “lied”… not departed from her opinions, but verifiably “LIED”.

I also concur that O’Reilly has nothing to do with the material Michelle presented above, and that Vanya continues unable to disprove anything Michelle brought up in her Vent.

PS: Vanya, how is it possible that you failed to punctuate O’Reilly correctly, not once but twice! in your second post above?? Horrors! Surely you don’t want us to think you an idiot, as you regard the rest of us, eh?

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Now then, to the heart of the matter.
You, Vanya, are even easier to disregard. So far your entire argument has been:
1) Do not disrespect the MSM because O’reilly lied
2) Wyrd is an idiot because he can not spell and types poorly
3) Although you have not actualy brought up any facts (other then O’rielly lied) you are comfortable at attempting to insult my inteligence.
4) You feel that it is alright to call me names, then take offense when Doug disagrees with your own world view.

Incidentaly, I liked your comment about Doug’s argument. It is a shame that it does not apply to me. I am assuming that you consider me as sub human because I do not spell check forum posts.

I am re-wording my question here, so that you may answer it. You can feel free to disregard it all you wish.

What does O’reilly have to do with the fabricated stories on the montage? Is it alright for the MSM to fabricate news stories to boost their ratings, stories which reach a billion people or more world wide, just because one aged conservative columnist with a world wide audiance of only a few million lies or exergerates to get his viewpoint across?

Can you answer this question? I mean, really answer it. Not just tell us to google somethng, or point out that the “other guy does it too”, or even cast asperasions on my inteligence.
Answer the question if you are serious about a debate.

Even if Wyrd could spell, I would not be sure what his point is.

My “entire world view is cockeyed and wrong-headed”? Brilliant argument! Name-calling is not debate. You don’t even know what my worldview is.

-Voltaire

Wish I had your job, instead of the one I have! LOL!

Omission is just as egregious as misrepresentation: presenting something false = preventing the presentation of true statements (by creative editing, “potting down”, shouting-over, topic-forcing/steering/jumping).

Speaking of ignorance, you should learn how to spell.

You want to know the truth?
EVERYTHING you here on the TV, news, and the internet is someones Opinion.
Thats it. Nothing to debate or argue.
Truth itself is subjective. I see a marine carrying a dead girl and I think to myself “He is torn apart that his actions didn’t save her from the terrorist scum.” I see a man in pain and feeling that he failed her.
Another person probaly sees a murderous american savage showing off his evil handiwork.

Whats the truth? How the hell are you going to know it unless you watched it happen from the start? Unless you lived the event? Even then the “truth” of the subject is filtered out by the viewers own experiances.

But why am I typing? Your 1st post showed the arrogance and ignorance that infuriates me about the people I used to talk to on the left.
You make an inane post about how O’reilly lies. WTF does that have to do with the video footage in the montage? O’reilly lies, Bush lies, both Clintons lie, you lie, I lie, your mother lied, as did your father. Mine too for that matter. But, just like Kerry, you come out and say “What! look! over their! a Lier!!!” And do not even address the “lies” you found in the montage.
Honestly, you found NO lies in the vent. Instead you try to mitigate its message on the MSM lies by pointing to O’reilly’s lies. And when called on it you tell us to “google it”
Well guesse what Sparky? I don’t have to google it. Unlike some people who are staring at their Colon and think it is Nirvana, I fully understand that only a portion of what you see is truth. The rest of the truth has to be pulled out kicking and screaming from the circumstances and envirement in which it is contained.