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posted at 11:05 am on June 2, 2006 by Bryan
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Australian Katie Couric busted
The Dateline/GM truck fiasco
NBC’s NASCAR sting *Smackdown
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They used to get away with trash like that, but now thanks to people like Michelle and other bloggers, that time is no more. Thank God.

MalkinFan on June 2, 2006 at 11:15 AM

Bravo Michelle!

“Exposing the tricks of the media trade” is a subject we know so little about - except in such obvious blunders as the reporter paddling a canoe in a foot of water. We would not even not know about that one if someone hadn’t walked by!

More please! Understanding how the media is attempting to manipulate the news to their advantage or political view is important - and their doesn’t seem to be much coverage on it (obviously!).

omegaram on June 2, 2006 at 11:20 AM

And… the “tricks of the media trade” cause people to ignore what is right before their eyes to the point where they say things such as “there is no reason to be suspicious” of the increase in dhimmitude, the increase in rhetoric from Iran, the increase in the devotion of young, Muslim men since 9/11… etc, ad nauseam…

Before I visited the haulocaust museum, I wondered how the German people allowed Hitler to get to power. Now I know. All the main sources of news told the masses what they wanted to hear… and they bought it… ignoring the truth.

Thanks for “breaking the news” Michelle and Allah.

Leiren on June 2, 2006 at 11:23 AM

So where is the outrage? It doesn’t exist. That’s because liberal minds already believe that the end justifies the means regardless of what the inconvenient truth happens to be, and anyone with half a real brain already understands that the national media is, for the most part, run by the liberal minds.

I think this is old news to most people who pay attention, and those who don’t, well, they aren’t listening now either.

NRA4Freedom on June 2, 2006 at 11:26 AM

I got to agree with NRA4Freedom. Even when these staged moments are exposed as fakes, the liberal left ignores and “forgets”, choosing rather to exploit and emphasize their agendas… often using the same materials! Like cheese, it just needs to be aged a bit before it is again useful.

“Ignore that man behind the curtain… I am the Great Oz!”

We again ‘rightfully’ bestow accolades and applause, Michelle!

horsepower_1st on June 2, 2006 at 11:40 AM

Sometimes I wish to really thank Al Gore for inventing internet. If it is not for our Al Gore we could still be fooled by them news media….LOL

Soros should think about buying Gore a big farm in Siberia and keep him there before he could invent something else to screw up the grand liberal plan of brain washing every one of us.

easy87us on June 2, 2006 at 11:53 AM

Think of it as INFOTAINMENT
and nobody does it like Michelle!

Ad revenue during the news is what keeps MSM afloat. Let’s not forget it’s $ for ratings, we’re not in utopia here.
My take is that most management is conservative and supports the capitalistic system that rewards them, while most of kids in the newsrooms are recent products of liberal education (ie:no history before Clinton) and do nothing more than cut and paste from APwire feeds populated by like minded underpaid water-cooler activists. Both groups somehow think of themselves as being of the ‘chosen’ to do public service, but will not report anything that could bring a legal blowback.
Forget about investigative reporting anymore, MSM could at least provide links to back up claims like bloggers do, if they want to be considered real journalists!
The blue & red public feeds on and monitors the airwaves and hopefully buys some of the products being advertised. And so it goes, especially on a slow news day, but the alternative looks like the Moscow evening news and nobody watches that:-)

Reality Check on June 2, 2006 at 11:57 AM

Well done
That Australian general could’ve done a bit better in my opinion but the other cases were moments of absolute embarassment

Defector01 on June 2, 2006 at 12:06 PM

Thank God for the internet, (thank you Al Gore) talk radio, and Fox news. The libs would like nothing more than too regulate the internet, and to pass the Fairness in Broadcasting bill in congress, which would be the end of Right-Wing talk shows on the airwaves. If the libs capture congress in “06″ the regulating of the internet, and talk radio will be on top of their agenda. This alone would be a big time victory for the libs. Fear this!

birdman on June 2, 2006 at 12:16 PM

Wha? The Australian General was PERFECT. How could he have done it better? I’ve been laughing so hard for five minutes that I think I just busted a rib.

He was priceless. I absolutely love how understated he was when he said it. “Well, I don’t really need these guards that your studio put here to make it look better, bet …”

Priceless. Anybody got the full video? I’m looking for a shot of Aussie Couric’s face when he said that. That would be schadenfreudilicious.

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Re: the above commenter who noted that it’s all about money:

Sure enough: sensationalism sells, so even conservative studio owners don’t have much incentive to police the journalists and keep things real … right?

BUT — wouldn’t “busting” these idiots be pretty sensational entertainment all in and of itself? I mean, couldn’t some conservative enterprising young television producer start a news channel or news show that functions like the blogosphere - with its sole purpose being to expose this liberal stupidity?

Wouldn’t it make a ton of money? Hell, put it on pay-per-view and I’d watch. I’m STILL laughing at that Aussie general.

For a good free market capitalist conservative, I think there’s a big ol’ untapped market for this kind of thing. If there’s money to be made in sensationalist yellow journalism, I suspect there’s even more money to be made EXPOSING the Rathering of the public.

I’m gonna go watch that again now. :)

Professor Blather on June 2, 2006 at 12:23 PM

Thanks for “breaking the news” Michelle and Allah.

I guess I am now officially the Rodney Dangerfield of Hot Air. Producing all 30 Vents to date apparently just isn’t enough to earn me a smidge of comment love.

Sigh.

Bryan on June 2, 2006 at 12:36 PM

Commenters, please show Bryan some love.

That’s an order.

Michelle on June 2, 2006 at 12:41 PM

OK, here it goes, Bryan I love you!!!!!!!!!

birdman on June 2, 2006 at 12:44 PM

The MSM was Pwned!

Brah on June 2, 2006 at 12:56 PM

Excellent Vent again!!! Much praise to Bryan!!!! Keep up the great work. Same to you Michelle and Allah. It is great to see MSM outed again.

br8veheart on June 2, 2006 at 1:07 PM

Yes M’am

Bryan your wonderful productions are The standard for a new syndication model. Thankyou.

Apparently we could all benefit from sensitivity training. How about a Vent on Flower Arranging for Airmen?(with cameo)

Reality Check on June 2, 2006 at 1:11 PM

Indeed, Bryan, you deserve great credit.

I have a cousin who is in Hollyweird and she teaches aspiring actors/actresses. Until I thought much about Charleton Heston’s contributions and the like, I must admit I have had contempt for anything that was acting or staged.

Then, a couple of Christmas’s back (oh GLEE! I can say CHRISTMAS here!) I endeavored to create a family movie to give to all concerned as a gift. It came out well by the recipient’s comments, was about an hour and 15 minutes long… and it took me 3 1/2 MONTHS to refine, adjust, time and synchonize the music, narration, titling and transition effects. It was one of the most difficult projects I EVER undertook!

I still have contempt for the plastic falsehoods the lib’s squeeze out like excrement, but I certainly have learned to have tremendous respect for the huge work that goes into the planning and production.

The difference between the good ones and the bad ones?

“It’s the CONTENT, Stupid!”

Helluva job, Bryan!

horsepower_1st on June 2, 2006 at 1:12 PM

Bryan, You and the crew are doing a great job, though I sometimes find Michelle’s use of props a bit gimmicky.

A production note - I’m glad to see Michelle more upright in the frame as opposed to her head being closer to the right side than her hips, as in the earliest “Vents.” I know that there’s no way she leans to the left in real life. :-)

DuffBeer on June 2, 2006 at 1:22 PM

Yes Bryan producers never get any of the credit. You have done one heck of a bang up job. Very professional.

birdman on June 2, 2006 at 1:26 PM

Ok, thank you all, but you guys can knock it off already. I just think it’s cool that we have already produced 30 episodes of Vent. Our little garage band has come quite a ways.

Bryan on June 2, 2006 at 1:28 PM

Hey Byron! Thanks for producing this. After attempting to produce even a home movie I can only guess [poorly] on how hard it is. Yet these Vents look great!

As for the MSM. They have been doing this for a long, long, time. What gets me is when people cry out ‘Ok - so its fake! But its true!’. From the MSM’s absolute refusal to call the Beslan’s ‘hostage takers’ terrorists to Dan Rather’s documents.

Fake — but Accurate.

CrazyFool on June 2, 2006 at 1:44 PM

Bryan,
you are one cool dude. Good work on those Vents!
i can’t stop laughing at the girl in the canoe. it just goes to show you what lengths they will go to. can you imagine the jokes back in the newsroom?? cracks me up every time. bwhaaahhaaahaaaahaaaahaaa

pullingmyhairout on June 2, 2006 at 1:56 PM

Sorry, but this was the weakest Vent I’ve seen. The Aussie smackdown was great, but the GM piece dragged on and was unclear as to its point and the other clips were to unfocused. Tighten it up - the canoe incident is a quick 15-second clip that told the whole story properly.

DirkBelig on June 2, 2006 at 2:15 PM

(Pant, Pant, M$M producer looks over his shoulder at pursuing vbloggers) They’re everywhere, they’re everywhere. (As he continues to run).

Mike H. on June 2, 2006 at 2:18 PM

Excellent vent!

Bryan, YOU ROCK!!!

speed647 on June 2, 2006 at 2:49 PM

The tragic truth is that the traitorous MSM still has the advantage in the media wars, especially outside the USA. A long, hard slog awaits us…

Halley on June 2, 2006 at 3:08 PM

Hey Bryan, forgive me please for not giveing you credit where credit is due, I have watched all 30 Vents from day 1. You have done an outstanding job, along with Michelle and Allah. Kudos to you all. Every Vent has been spot on. It is amazing that you guys can put so much content in each one, and do this on such a regular basis. And it is not just the content, it is the entertainment value also. Keep up the great work!!!

MalkinFan on June 2, 2006 at 4:32 PM

Our little garage band has come quite a ways.

And you’ve only just begun…

You guys are doing a fabulous job. Thanks!

Pablo on June 2, 2006 at 4:33 PM

BRIAN!!!
I’m so sorry!!!!
You’re amazing!! You’re wonderful. You do a great job!!!!

Leiren on June 2, 2006 at 4:55 PM

Hey you guys and Michelle,
are the best!
Keep sticking it to them moron libs ..
My son is only 12yrs.old and he thinks michelle is fine and smart and loves for her to be the George Washington for our times and run the lib media out..So Great Job Michelle and vent…

alyce on June 2, 2006 at 5:08 PM

bryan bryan bryan…. Remember I was ordered to show you love. The fact that Michelle noticed your post should be accolade enough without our praise. Now let me move my tongue back to the center and say the 30 were great. Special Hugs to all at Hot Air.

im4eagles on June 2, 2006 at 5:55 PM

Bryan,
Let’s be fair now. Several of my posts I’ve expressed admiration for your courage in being right in front of Michelle when she’s throwing and swinging things. I believe I requested a helmet for you at one point. You have a difficult job, my friend. I did enjoy this vent very much. The two gomers walking past the lady paddling along b.s creek was priceless. As far as the Aussie general is concerned, it looked to me like he was struggling with not saying something very tart.
Thanks again Michelle, and Bryan.
Hey Alyce, you said your 12 year old thinks Michelle is ‘fine’? Does he mean attractive? Back when I was a wee lad we used that word but I thought it had fallen out of style to craptastic descriptors like ‘da bomb’. I’m glad to see it’s making a comeback. Yes, Michelle is fine…now if we could just bring back the member’s only jacket, I can once again be complete. :)

austinnelly on June 2, 2006 at 6:10 PM

The Vents are always very well done.

Labamigo on June 2, 2006 at 6:16 PM

Bryon,

Enjoyed every Vent from day 1..in “my underwear”!

But “Alyce”…..You’ll have to wait behind MY (now) thirteen year old for the presidency.

But VP is still (barely) up for grabs……

j

Jimmyboy1 on June 2, 2006 at 6:31 PM

“Our little garage band has come quite a ways.”

Hewlett-Packard Started in a garage, Thomas Edison started in a shed. My dad taught Glen Frey a new way to tune his guitar when they were practicing in his cousin’s basement next door.

All pioneers start on a shoestring in humble beginnings being paid simply by the fulfillment of thier passion and convictions.

Bryan, Michelle, and Allahpundit, I think history will look on these efforts as a critical time.

The subject of this vent, deceptive tricks of the media trade, represents the needed niche for your work. Every human being has a soul that longs for the truth. You are giving many hope who have been losing faith in availability of the truth. Something that makes common sense.

What the media is doing is slander, treasonous, libelous, unpatriotic, and immoral. More soldiers are dying because of the false image of America that they portray. Every good deed or attempt at a good deed that the MSM/libs/communists will not try to cast doubt on or falsify.

Sure we have free speech, but there is a responsibility for accountability. Do these people want the free speech that exist (not) in Haditha? Those men in Haditha were fighting for the freedom of the Katie Courics of the world to speak. Katie, Rather, Chris matthews are all abusing the freedom that people died for to make money by sensationizing thier mistakes.

CountryDoc on June 2, 2006 at 7:22 PM

Great job to the whole crew, Bryan for production, Allah( and others) for the news, and of course, our own media babe (meant in a totally PC way of course :) ) for putting it all together in a great format that makes getting home to watch the next Vent a major part of my day. Thanks folks!

jcon96 on June 2, 2006 at 8:33 PM

“Faking the funk” is the essential nature of the liberal media (I don’t know why it is called “main stream media”).

The liberal media has to fake the news, otherwise the news will be dull, boring and not controversial. Controversy brings fame and higher ratings, especially when it is aimed at a Republican administration. Not only it satisfies the spirit of dishonesty, but it is a way of expressing, of exteriorizing hate towards the other side.

I thought we all understood how the liberal media functions.

I stopped watching any news on the alphabetical networks (except for the local news) since the introduction of the Internet by the great glacier-worshipper, Mr. Al Gore.

Unfortunately, there is a segment of the population who is unable to turn to the Internet for the Truth, so these 20-minutes-of-fame-seekers at 6:30pm feed these poor viewers with a daily dose of lies.

As for your vent Michelle, I think it’s right on target as usual. You and your team should get some kind of prize at the end of the year.

CatholicConservative on June 2, 2006 at 9:05 PM

Yes austinnelly, he said fine .
My oldest son says fine ,sick, dope,cute..
these are words I assume are the same when
they are looking at a young lady.
He doesn’t want any kind of job that has his mom that close.
I’m crazy enough to knock the heck out of a liberal that talks crap about my son …I’m not too nice when it comes to my kids..I fight back physically not with my mouth..
Hey I’m a strong and proud American Woman..
But i’ll vote for your kid…

alyce on June 2, 2006 at 9:06 PM

While looking at the want ads posted through the Australian tv web site I read this on a job posting, Only those with the right to work in Australia should apply. Now if we could read the same requirements in our newspapers.

rockdalian on June 2, 2006 at 10:35 PM

Goodness, if you posted something like that in an American newspaper job listing, you’d probably have a reporter digging through your life for dirt and trying to ruin your business. No, the only thing you’ll read in most papers these days is liberal herd think. Tedious bunch..they’re riding high on Haditha though; you know, I don’t remember this kind of scrutiny on the DEA when the David Koresh incident occurred. Very different situation, but worse in some ways. My point of interest is in the rush to judgement. Well, or lack thereof back then. Of course, that can be explained away with simple recognition of their ingrained bias. Still chaps my a$$ though.

austinnelly on June 2, 2006 at 11:39 PM

Lock and Load, Troops! Unleash the Dogs of War! Another media misrepresentation is ongoing!

One of the finest blogosphere warriors, Michael Yon, has had his copyrights invaded and plundered by one of the lowest forms of the enemy; a left-wing MSM journalist cesspool owned by a French company. Details are more eloquently detailed by Michael Yon himself here. The bottom line: the new rag SHOCK (owned by HFM) used Yon’s Pulitzer-nominated picture without his permission and in a manner totally repugnant to the Yon. They even included a picture of Yon holding his sacred work in the inside cover, implying he agreed to the anti-military sewage piece contained within. Their claim that they purchased in from an agency (a Pulitzer nomination??? Yeah, right!); their defense is a joke and an affront to anyone who cares about intellectual property and our troops in general.

So gear up, troopers! Find ways to contact these scumbag journalistic raiders and give them withering volleys of emails. For the places that distribute the actual a**wipe mags, respectfully let them know that they are selling stolen property (Yon has a list).

Mike O on June 3, 2006 at 12:10 AM

You could run that videoclip on a loop at my website “totalbullshit.com”; es muy mierda del toro worthy!

Yiddish Steel on June 3, 2006 at 12:24 AM

Perhaps Michelle, (and aka “Rodney Dangerfield” Bryan …. LOL …. Thank you for your participation and contribution) will consider a follow up piece to “Exposing the tricks of the media trade” (Part I).

Perhaps including the tale of Jayson Blair and his “reporting” for the New York Times, and referal to published works such as “Journalistic Fraud: How The New York Times Distorts the News and Why It Can No Longer Be Trusted (Hardcover)by Bob Kohn ” at Amazon would help us understand more details of how we are being manipulated by the mainstream media.

Basic recognition that we are being manipulated in many ways by the Mainstream Media, from outright fraud to more subtle methods, is a starting point. Perhaps most here have detected this condition to one degree or another.

What I suggest is discussion and perhaps another Michelle (and “Rodney Dangerfield” Bryan) piece that will help us recognize more fully the game that is being played - and that we are being subjected to for the benefit of Liberal interests.

omegaram on June 3, 2006 at 1:50 AM

You guys really are reaching if this is the best (worst?) you can come up with. I can find more misinformation and lying in 5 minutes of the O’Reilly factor.

Vanya on June 3, 2006 at 1:54 AM

Hi Michelle, Hotair and Shire Network News (SNN) could perhaps do a weekly roundup…both podcasts have a high level of journalist integrity

mike46nzl on June 3, 2006 at 6:31 AM

Of course you can Vanya…when you produce your own video showing it we can all watch…carry on troop.

jcon96 on June 3, 2006 at 9:51 AM

Sure you can, Vanya…

So instead of five whole minutes, why not just give us ONE minute of examples. How about splitting it up into 30 seconds of example “lies” and 30 seconds of “misinformation”. I’m sure we all look forward to your enlightening response…

horsepower_1st on June 3, 2006 at 10:32 AM

Great vent!

RightAllAlong on June 3, 2006 at 12:09 PM

Just Google “OReilly lies” or “OReilly misinformation.” Malkin should subject the shows she appears on to the same treatment she gives the MSM. And she wouldn’t have to go back 13 years to find examples of subterfuge.

Vanya on June 3, 2006 at 2:19 PM

Vanye
I almost never watch o’reilly. But what, Vanya, does O’reilly have to do with Michelles latest Vent?

You want to know the truth?
EVERYTHING you here on the TV, news, and the internet is someones Opinion.
Thats it. Nothing to debate or argue.
Truth itself is subjective. I see a marine carrying a dead girl and I think to myself “He is torn apart that his actions didn’t save her from the terrorist scum.” I see a man in pain and feeling that he failed her.
Another person probaly sees a murderous american savage showing off his evil handiwork.

Whats the truth? How the hell are you going to know it unless you watched it happen from the start? Unless you lived the event? Even then the “truth” of the subject is filtered out by the viewers own experiances.

But why am I typing? Your 1st post showed the arrogance and ignorance that infuriates me about the people I used to talk to on the left.
You make an inane post about how O’reilly lies. WTF does that have to do with the video footage in the montage? O’reilly lies, Bush lies, both Clintons lie, you lie, I lie, your mother lied, as did your father. Mine too for that matter. But, just like Kerry, you come out and say “What! look! over their! a Lier!!!” And do not even address the “lies” you found in the montage.
Honestly, you found NO lies in the vent. Instead you try to mitigate its message on the MSM lies by pointing to O’reilly’s lies. And when called on it you tell us to “google it”
Well guesse what Sparky? I don’t have to google it. Unlike some people who are staring at their Colon and think it is Nirvana, I fully understand that only a portion of what you see is truth. The rest of the truth has to be pulled out kicking and screaming from the circumstances and envirement in which it is contained.

Wyrd on June 3, 2006 at 2:51 PM

If everyone lies, why all the outrage over the stories in the video? Everyone lies, so that makes it OK?

Speaking of ignorance, you should learn how to spell.

Vanya on June 3, 2006 at 3:08 PM

It isn’t so much WHO lies; as it is what position are they in - your lyin’ mom has neither the audience nor the exposure of a brokaw, a limbaguh, a couric, an oreilly, an olberman, or a vannity.

Omission is just as egregious as misrepresentation: presenting something false = preventing the presentation of true statements (by creative editing, “potting down”, shouting-over, topic-forcing/steering/jumping).

solitas on June 3, 2006 at 5:11 PM

Spelling is not my strongest suite. We all have out failings.
e-mail me at sacre_wyrd@yahoo.com if you would like to educate me on the finer points of debate and spelling.
I would still like to know what your origional statement has to do with the vent.
Bringing Up O’reily, which has nothing to do with the vent, has me boggled. I can not understand how he would have anything to do with the vent?
That he has lied is irrelavant. Most of the data used to justify the Iraq war was based on inteligence gathered during Bill Clintons regime, yet no one says “Bill Clinton lied, and people died”. Why is that? Is it because most people regard it as irrelavant? So I ask you, which lie of Michelles do you object to in the Vent? Or is it that her vent exposes that the MSM is more apt to spread and disseminate lies to Millions of people to fulfil their own objective and to make money, regardless of what may be true? Yes, O’reily does also, as does Al Franken. But do either of them reach more people then the MSM?

Wyrd on June 3, 2006 at 5:15 PM

Wyrd, bad luck for you. Misspelling a word allows Vanya to dismiss any and all comments you will ever make. He/She/It has won the battle, and you must now retire. Because of course nothing you have to say can be accepted as true-you misspelled a word!
Vanya, your entire world view is cockeyed and wrong-headed…but by golly you can Spell! “I love the smell of dictionaries in the morning.”
By the by, today I was talking with a leftist/nut/grandma who thinks Al Franken is too close to the middle-she herself is probably to the left of Sheehan and Murtha. You might not think such people existed, but there she was. And this wasn’t some internet meeting of balanced minds, where nuance is missing from the communication. We were face to face, and I couldn’t help but smile. I’ve known her for years, and she’s sincerely demented. Kind of refreshing, though. Her daddy was called up in front of HUAC.

Doug on June 3, 2006 at 7:09 PM

*Hugs* Bryan!

Wish I had your job, instead of the one I have! LOL!

Lady Heather on June 3, 2006 at 11:04 PM

When we hear news we should always wait for the sacrament of confirmation.

-Voltaire

Ghost on June 4, 2006 at 12:13 AM

Hey, if Wyrd wants to be known as an ignoramus too lazy to learn how to read and write properly, or even use a spell-checker, fine by me. Fact is, most people will reject your message out-of-hand if you can’t write correctly. How far do you think Michelle would get if she refused to use proper spelling and grammar? It’s fundamental. You know, like the three Rs you right wing-nuts are always complaining aren’t being taught in school. Maybe Wyrd was home-schooled?

Even if Wyrd could spell, I would not be sure what his point is.

My “entire world view is cockeyed and wrong-headed”? Brilliant argument! Name-calling is not debate. You don’t even know what my worldview is.

Vanya on June 4, 2006 at 1:09 AM

For your sake I will type slower (the palsy in my right arm effects my spelling)
I could type posts in word perfect then cut and paste them. Seriously though, the message should be more important then the five or six mispelled words in my posts. I am, of course, disregarding words that have several different spellings, depending on whether you read them in an american newspaper, canadian, Australian, or Brittish (Al Jazera translations don’t count.

Now then, to the heart of the matter.
You, Vanya, are even easier to disregard. So far your entire argument has been:
1) Do not disrespect the MSM because O’reilly lied
2) Wyrd is an idiot because he can not spell and types poorly
3) Although you have not actualy brought up any facts (other then O’rielly lied) you are comfortable at attempting to insult my inteligence.
4) You feel that it is alright to call me names, then take offense when Doug disagrees with your own world view.

Incidentaly, I liked your comment about Doug’s argument. It is a shame that it does not apply to me. I am assuming that you consider me as sub human because I do not spell check forum posts.

I am re-wording my question here, so that you may answer it. You can feel free to disregard it all you wish.

What does O’reilly have to do with the fabricated stories on the montage? Is it alright for the MSM to fabricate news stories to boost their ratings, stories which reach a billion people or more world wide, just because one aged conservative columnist with a world wide audiance of only a few million lies or exergerates to get his viewpoint across?

Can you answer this question? I mean, really answer it. Not just tell us to google somethng, or point out that the “other guy does it too”, or even cast asperasions on my inteligence.
Answer the question if you are serious about a debate.

Wyrd on June 4, 2006 at 9:41 AM

Nice job exposing the total lack of substance in Vanya’s alleged ‘argument’, Wyrd. Although I early on (regrettably) also criticized ‘birdman’ for his spelling, it is truly a moot point. To assume that someone is unintelligent or uninformed because spelling never clicked for them is arrogant, foolish and disconnected. It is the substance of their argument that is important and virtually nothing else.

His argument has substance. Where is yours?

I have become so fatigued by the lefty’s personal attacks and vagueries (I really have lost interest in debating their babble). I do recognize, however, that when you don’t have facts to point out in support of your argument, there is no other way to feign any base for your position.

So why bother with them? They are not part of the solution… why expand their role as part of the problem?

To answer my own query, it is probably because in these most serious of times in our history, their ridiculous stances provide us with some form of entertainment and humor… albeit, pretty sick and tragic humor. There is nothing else there to be derived.

In that spirit, I still await her ‘googled other people’s answers’ to where O’Reilly “lied”… not departed from her opinions, but verifiably “LIED”.

I also concur that O’Reilly has nothing to do with the material Michelle presented above, and that Vanya continues unable to disprove anything Michelle brought up in her Vent.

PS: Vanya, how is it possible that you failed to punctuate O’Reilly correctly, not once but twice! in your second post above?? Horrors! Surely you don’t want us to think you an idiot, as you regard the rest of us, eh?

horsepower_1st on June 4, 2006 at 11:09 AM

“an ignoramus too lazy to learn how to read and write properly”

“you right wing-nuts”

Wow people, I guess we truly are lucky that Vanya doesn’t believe in “name calling”!

horsepower_1st on June 4, 2006 at 11:21 AM

Bryan, Michelle, whomever…

I think the real-looking orange-flame-on-black would make a better opener for the videos than the current, inverted blue-on-white one.

solitas on June 4, 2006 at 12:52 PM

Good point, solitas - I also really like that color combination (Harley factory racing colors, too!)

horsepower_1st on June 4, 2006 at 1:15 PM

See, Wyrd, if you try you can spell correctly. As for my spelling, I did not punctuate O’Reilly in my Google search terms because Google ignores punctuation. As for name-calling, you called me ignorant so I responded in kind. I apologize. I should not have been drawn into it. Michelle sets the tone here with her rather liberal use of personal insults.

I still don’t understand what your point is. Is it that it’s OK to lie because everybody does it? Or that it’s Ok to lie to millions of people, but not billions of people?

My point (as I stated in a previous post) is that Michelle should examine the network she appears on (Fox) with the same critical eye she casts on the rest of the MSM.

I did not take issue with the accuracy of Michelle’s stories. IMO, they are minor with the exception of the GM story. A woman in a canoe in a few inches of water? Sure it’s funny but it hardly rises to the level of the lies on Fox (see below). And I too question the ethics of networks misrepresenting themselves and sending people undercover to get a story. Although the results can be interesting.

Fox lies about White House vandalism:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1689

O’Reilly’s show is an opinion show but he at least should try to get his facts straight:
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/misinformer.htm

Vanya on June 4, 2006 at 2:01 PM

Vanya, what is your opinion on Dan Rather and his report on Bush? Jesse MacBeth?

Do you have a list of stories fabricated by NY Times?

I am just interested to know whether you are a fair and balance monitor on both sides or you just want to go after conservatives.

By the way, good one on OReilly.

easy87us on June 4, 2006 at 4:26 PM

Thanks for the clarification Vanya.
So your position is that Michelle should point out a list of errors on Fox news, which is the only conservative leaning news outlet. Why should she? Who pays her salary and writes her orders? Who tells her whom to investigate? No one does. She, and her staff, decides what to vent on. The MSM is liberaly biased. They have been misdirecting the news for years. Michelle doing a vent about it will not change anything, but maybe, just maybe it will inform some people to look at the news with a criticle eye, and not buy everything they see. Why would you take offense at that? If you want to see a ripping piece on the lies of the Fox news network then you can do so yourself. Get a friend with a video camera, toss up some back ground and troll for the lies on their archive site. You can also Tivo the fox news channel so you can be sure to grab the choicest lies. Best Buy has some nice video capture cards, and they are easy to install. Conservatives feel that they are marginalized enough, no need for Michelle to attack her base to make you happy.

Wyrd on June 4, 2006 at 7:32 PM

If you liberals can go after your liberal masters ( yes, I think the word master best describe your blind obedience to them) the way we go after Bush, liberals may have a chance to take the House back.

Do you liberal see how we go against Bush on almost..everything?

But, being a passionate liberal, you cannot question your masters. Remember the famous quote ” we pay you we own you.”?

I call that “plantation” mentalia.

It really is. So please don’t give Michelle a hard time until you can be fair and balanced.

easy87us on June 4, 2006 at 11:54 PM

Why does Michelle need to go after the ‘lies of Fox News’? It’s one network and there is a whole non-profit organization that does nothing but try to discredit them. People have written books about it. Meanwhile, you’ve got the MSM networks reprinting the most outrageous lies and slanders of Democrat politicians with no fact checking whatsoever. Howard Dean should be in a strait jacket with a thorazine drip in a padded cell, instead is treated like an oracle. Calling an entire segment of the population ‘brain dead’ or never worked an honest day in their life is simply accepted. Dan Rather puts up forgeries that might as well have been written in crayon and even as he’s hooked out the door, he’s given prizes for ‘good reporting.’ I’m supposed to get excited about O’Reilly’s foul ups? The guy is an opinionated jerk. Trying to get him to change his mind is like pulling a train off its tracks but I don’t see him engaged in a full scale fraud. To me, it’s about proportion. The MSM is like a herd of really big lemmings; they think the same and they fall for the same BS. Someone reports something they like and they run with it, even if it doesn’t pass the smell test. Take that commencement speaker in New York; he said Schumer wanted to shoot President Bush between the eyes. Nice metaphor, jerk. Barely a whisper. Remember the Dan Burton ‘Clinton is a scumbag’ comment? They wouldn’t let that go for weeks. Fox may have it’s problems but you’re supposed to think about what you see, not swallow it whole. That’s what they would like you to do. Why do you think the MSM does what it does?

austinnelly on June 5, 2006 at 8:20 AM

Austinnelly:
“The MSM is like a herd of really big lemmings; they think the same and they fall for the same BS. Someone reports something they like and they run with it, even if it doesn’t pass the smell test.”

I do think they have a ring of MASTERS running the propaganda machine for the liberals through a few websites.

Like Soros’ MoveOn’org, it is ” we pay you we own you.”kind of operation.

One people, one voice. From coast to coast, from NY Time to Hollywood, from Yale to Princeton, from Katie Couric to Tim Russert, from Pelosi to Schumer.

So much for the freedom of speech inside the Democratic Party and the liberal circles. Look at Joe Lieberman! That poor guy has been skinned alive by his own people!

I cannot imagine what would happen if we let the liberals take over this country!

Time for sobering thoughts.

easy87us on June 5, 2006 at 11:05 AM

What’s funny is that righties say the media has a leftist bias. While leftists insist it has a conservative bias! Wyrd, are you saying Michelle appears on Fox without getting paid for it? I don’t believe that. Also you, her audience, pay her way, so she panders to you, like all rightie commentators. Maybe you guys are marginalized because you are on the margins.

Vanya on June 5, 2006 at 1:02 PM

I have found that funny too, Vanya.
Being neither a Conservative or a Liberal though, I have noticed that the leftists point of view is more often expressed by the Media. It appears that the leftist that yell the most about the MSM being conservative is because it is not liberal enough to suit their narrow agenda.
Michelle may get paid to be on these shows. I assume that anyone that appears on TV is being paid, though I can not say for certain one way or the other. But I am not paying her. I also do not watch TV, most of it is crap, and their is no news, just opinions dressed up as facts by bothe sides.
You are also her audiance, is she pandering to you also? I like the vents because she appears to be speaking her mind, and that is refreshing. That I agree with some of what she says is a given. If I did not like anything she had to say I would quit watching. It’s like hitting yourself with a hammer. Sure, their are masochists that may like it, but I am not one of them. I don’t watch O’reilly because he is an opiniated wind bag most of the time. Sometimes I may agree with him (I even agree with you some times). But I am not going to try to force him off the air. He has a message and the means to get t out. It is his right to do so, just as it is my right to not listen.

Perhaps you are right about conservatives being marginalized becasue they are a tiny minority. Considering the land slide victory of President Kerry, and the fact that the dems currently control the house and the senate I may have to concede that point.

Wyrd on June 5, 2006 at 1:16 PM


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