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	<title>Comments on: Olbermann: &#8220;the incident for which the entire war may ultimately be remembered&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: 4ab33259a615</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Haditha Heavy Breathers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Haditha Heavy Breathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Olbermann * The Nation NYSlimes *  London Slimes Dowd * LATimes Guardian * Telegraph * AP CBS  * Bruce Kesler S &amp; L * Cox &amp; Forkum Pshop: Hot Air affiliate Sanctuary [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Olbermann * The Nation NYSlimes *  London Slimes Dowd * LATimes Guardian * Telegraph * AP CBS  * Bruce Kesler S &#38; L * Cox &#38; Forkum Pshop: Hot Air affiliate Sanctuary [...]</p>
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		<title>By: protein wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>protein wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 22:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sinking of the Cole...&lt;/strong&gt;

Only this time, no dead sailors! So, you know, no harm, no foul. (h/t Dave Price) Meanwhile, in less important breaking news, &quot;Troops cleared in Iraqi deaths is Ishaqi&quot;:A U.S. military probe has exonerated U.S. troops in the deaths of Iraqi c...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sinking of the Cole&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Only this time, no dead sailors! So, you know, no harm, no foul. (h/t Dave Price) Meanwhile, in less important breaking news, &quot;Troops cleared in Iraqi deaths is Ishaqi&quot;:A U.S. military probe has exonerated U.S. troops in the deaths of Iraqi c&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tuning out: Henninger on Haditha and the anti-war left</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tuning out: Henninger on Haditha and the anti-war left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And that&#8217;s the key. To cover it, as we&#8217;ve done here, in order to find out what went wrong is one thing; to exploit it in hopes of delegitimizing the entire war, and in particular the heroism of the rest of the troops in the field, is something else entirely. And it&#8217;s already begun, both on television and in print. But here&#8217;s the silver lining in a very dark cloud: Opinion polls put support for the war below 40%. Still, it has become obligatory now as a nod across the political spectrum to the corrosive Vietnam Syndrome, to reassure that one&#8217;s opposition is only to the war, not to the men fighting it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And that&#8217;s the key. To cover it, as we&#8217;ve done here, in order to find out what went wrong is one thing; to exploit it in hopes of delegitimizing the entire war, and in particular the heroism of the rest of the troops in the field, is something else entirely. And it&#8217;s already begun, both on television and in print. But here&#8217;s the silver lining in a very dark cloud: Opinion polls put support for the war below 40%. Still, it has become obligatory now as a nod across the political spectrum to the corrosive Vietnam Syndrome, to reassure that one&#8217;s opposition is only to the war, not to the men fighting it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Star Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Star Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BBC Reports: Guns Cause Gunshot Wounds...&lt;/strong&gt;

The media feeding frenzy seems to be in full bloom now....</description>
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<p>The media feeding frenzy seems to be in full bloom now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sMack</title>
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		<dc:creator>sMack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I listen to anything this boob said I believe he was talking sports.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I listen to anything this boob said I believe he was talking sports&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WHAT THE LEFT REALLY WANTS FROM HADITHA...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Are you curious about what the left really wants to get out of the Haditha massacre?


	Carol and the rest of her Bush-defending pals need to go home and take an ethics class. Then they need to ask forgiveness. This kind of argument is shameful. In fa...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WHAT THE LEFT REALLY WANTS FROM HADITHA&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Are you curious about what the left really wants to get out of the Haditha massacre?</p>
<p>	Carol and the rest of her Bush-defending pals need to go home and take an ethics class. Then they need to ask forgiveness. This kind of argument is shameful. In fa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BirdEye</title>
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		<dc:creator>BirdEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy87us...I can always count on you to say what my job&#039;s requirements keep me from taking the time to type.  Couldn&#039;t agree with ya more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy87us&#8230;I can always count on you to say what my job&#8217;s requirements keep me from taking the time to type.  Couldn&#8217;t agree with ya more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MaiDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaiDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who watches Keith Olberman? Maybe a couple of female mud wrestlers from Seattle.

The truth about Haditha is this: Were you to toss a handgrenade at random into a crowd, 98% of the dead would be terrorists. Could it be that our Marines had the dastardly luck to kill the innocent 2% of the population? C&#039;mon Bush, stop taking Jimmy Carter pills and support troops who were merely defending themselves. Let&#039;s also try John MurthaFu--- for sedition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who watches Keith Olberman? Maybe a couple of female mud wrestlers from Seattle.</p>
<p>The truth about Haditha is this: Were you to toss a handgrenade at random into a crowd, 98% of the dead would be terrorists. Could it be that our Marines had the dastardly luck to kill the innocent 2% of the population? C&#8217;mon Bush, stop taking Jimmy Carter pills and support troops who were merely defending themselves. Let&#8217;s also try John MurthaFu&#8212; for sedition.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Mileti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Mileti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah cut him some slack... he&#039;s got to do something to keep the moonbats happy while they wait for Rove to be indited... again! /s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah cut him some slack&#8230; he&#8217;s got to do something to keep the moonbats happy while they wait for Rove to be indited&#8230; again! /s</p>
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		<title>By: Wyrd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wyrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if what the Marines are doing is so &quot;wrong&quot;, and if the PM is soo miffed their is a simple solution.
Ask us to leave.
Bush says we are their because the Iraqi&#039;s want us their, and we will leave when they ask us to.  Well, ask us and lets move out. And 6 months from now when 1 Million people have died at the hands of the darling insurgants as part of their &quot;re-education plan&quot; we will probaly be torn apart for leaving by the same people that are tearing us apart now for being their.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if what the Marines are doing is so &#8220;wrong&#8221;, and if the PM is soo miffed their is a simple solution.<br />
Ask us to leave.<br />
Bush says we are their because the Iraqi&#8217;s want us their, and we will leave when they ask us to.  Well, ask us and lets move out. And 6 months from now when 1 Million people have died at the hands of the darling insurgants as part of their &#8220;re-education plan&#8221; we will probaly be torn apart for leaving by the same people that are tearing us apart now for being their.</p>
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		<title>By: clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Keith whatisface died a couple of years ago on some other program. Still dead, apparently, from the neck up.</description>
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		<title>By: WC</title>
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		<dc:creator>WC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, easy87us.

All Olbermann remembers is how to diss O&#039;Rielly every week in his &#039;Worst Person of the Day&#039; award. Too bad he won&#039;t incude himself this time. 

WC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, easy87us.</p>
<p>All Olbermann remembers is how to diss O&#8217;Rielly every week in his &#8216;Worst Person of the Day&#8217; award. Too bad he won&#8217;t incude himself this time. </p>
<p>WC</p>
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		<title>By: Ninth State</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ninth State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Haditha: New Evidence, New Accusations...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Remember: those involved at the incident at Haditha are presumed innocent until proven guilty.  This does not mean that they are guilty, or that there was no wrongdoing.  But let&#8217;s all wait until those with the actual evidence bring what happene...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Haditha: New Evidence, New Accusations&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Remember: those involved at the incident at Haditha are presumed innocent until proven guilty.  This does not mean that they are guilty, or that there was no wrongdoing.  But let&#8217;s all wait until those with the actual evidence bring what happene&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: easy87us</title>
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		<dc:creator>easy87us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Olbermann, 

This is not how I remember the war. 

I remember Saddam crawling out of the spider hole.

I remember the brave marines who have sacrificed for this country.

I remember how our troops kicked A$$!

I remember how the Democrats were against the war, after they supported the war. I rememebr Kerry the great Waffle King.

I remember we have 4 years without a bombing incidence in this country. Hope we can continue this record.

The rest, are just minor incidences.

BTW, do you remember how the insurgents beheaded AMERICAN CONTRACTORS AND HANGED THEIR HEADS ON A BRIDGE? I guess not. You never remember those things. I guess Democrats and liberals don&#039;t like to remember those atrocities. Insurgents are freedom figthers to you. I am not surprise that Democrats support the insurgents, but not our troops. They have criticized our troops on a daily basis but they have never criticized the atrocities done by the insurgents.

I understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Olbermann, </p>
<p>This is not how I remember the war. </p>
<p>I remember Saddam crawling out of the spider hole.</p>
<p>I remember the brave marines who have sacrificed for this country.</p>
<p>I remember how our troops kicked A$$!</p>
<p>I remember how the Democrats were against the war, after they supported the war. I rememebr Kerry the great Waffle King.</p>
<p>I remember we have 4 years without a bombing incidence in this country. Hope we can continue this record.</p>
<p>The rest, are just minor incidences.</p>
<p>BTW, do you remember how the insurgents beheaded AMERICAN CONTRACTORS AND HANGED THEIR HEADS ON A BRIDGE? I guess not. You never remember those things. I guess Democrats and liberals don&#8217;t like to remember those atrocities. Insurgents are freedom figthers to you. I am not surprise that Democrats support the insurgents, but not our troops. They have criticized our troops on a daily basis but they have never criticized the atrocities done by the insurgents.</p>
<p>I understand.</p>
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		<title>By: birdman</title>
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		<dc:creator>birdman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olbermann is most likley next in line at CBS after &quot;the perky one&quot; gets fired. Does anyone watch this fools show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olbermann is most likley next in line at CBS after &#8220;the perky one&#8221; gets fired. Does anyone watch this fools show.</p>
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		<title>By: GPE</title>
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		<dc:creator>GPE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the incident for which the entire war may ultimately be remembered&quot;

I thought this spot was owned by Abu Grieb. Or was it the WMD report? Or was it one of the host of other &quot;bomb shells&quot; championed by the left? Well I guess this is the ultimate incident until the next useful ultimate incident comes along.

Personally, 9/11 will be the &quot;incident&quot; for which I&#039;ll be remembering this war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the incident for which the entire war may ultimately be remembered&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought this spot was owned by Abu Grieb. Or was it the WMD report? Or was it one of the host of other &#8220;bomb shells&#8221; championed by the left? Well I guess this is the ultimate incident until the next useful ultimate incident comes along.</p>
<p>Personally, 9/11 will be the &#8220;incident&#8221; for which I&#8217;ll be remembering this war.</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/haditha_explaining_the_inexpli.html</description>
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		<title>By: BirdEye</title>
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		<dc:creator>BirdEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a waste of a human being.</description>
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		<title>By: Sandys Beach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandys Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olbermann is having wet dreams, again. This is a crap incident and our fighting men and women are putting their lives on the line so the Keith Olbermanns of the world are free to say what they want.  I have been saying this for a while now..what would FDR do in this situation?  I have the answer...!!!does anyone else?????!!!!!
And by the way, Keith...do you think your ilk would be allowed these freedoms in the 12th century stinking cesspool they call mecca....???  Some answers, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olbermann is having wet dreams, again. This is a crap incident and our fighting men and women are putting their lives on the line so the Keith Olbermanns of the world are free to say what they want.  I have been saying this for a while now..what would FDR do in this situation?  I have the answer&#8230;!!!does anyone else?????!!!!!<br />
And by the way, Keith&#8230;do you think your ilk would be allowed these freedoms in the 12th century stinking cesspool they call mecca&#8230;.???  Some answers, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Dread Pirate Roberts VI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dread Pirate Roberts VI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks anyway Kieth, but I prefer to wait to hear what St. Katie has to say on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks anyway Kieth, but I prefer to wait to hear what St. Katie has to say on the subject.</p>
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