Olbermann: “the incident for which the entire war may ultimately be remembered”
posted at 12:46 pm on June 1, 2006 by Allahpundit
One of the reasons Vinnie’s posts annoyed me is because they lump me in with the likes of this wretched bastard, who proved last night how much he supports the troops by tossing the work of 130,000 good soldiers out the window. Wishful thinking as only a left-wing anti-war “patriot” can do it. I wonder if it earned him any new pledges this morning.
The British papers are enjoying this, too. As I mentioned yesterday, the Times of London watched the 23-minute video of Lance Cpl. Crossan but came away with only one quote. And it’s exactly the quote you’d expect. This morning the Daily Telegraph published the memoir of a reporter who spent time with the Marines in Haditha that simply defies description. He portrays them, almost literally, as animals. He compares their base explicitly to “Lord of the Flies.” Remember, Arwa Damon of CNN went out of her way the other day to say how restrained were the troops she knew in Haditha. I’ll send the link to the milbloggers and see what they have to say about his article, whether the encampments he mentions are standard for Marines in the field or whether something unusual was going on here.
Back home, Time reports this morning that of the two probes, the one that has Marine commanders most worried is the investigation by Army Gen. Eldon Bargewell regarding possible cover-up. WaPo has details on the Bargewell inquiry:
One of Bargewell’s findings is that two failures occurred in reporting the Haditha incident up the Marine chain of command. The first is that [one Marine], a squad leader alleged to have been centrally involved in the shootings, made a false statement to his superiors when he reported that 15 Iraqi civilians had been killed in the roadside bombing that killed a Marine and touched off the incident…
A second and more troubling failure occurred later in the day, this official said, when a Marine human exploitation team, which helped collect the dead, should have observed that the Iraqis were killed by gunshot, not by a bomb. The team’s reporting chain lay outside that of the other Marines — who were members of the 3rd Battalion of the 1st Marines — and went up through military intelligence channels directly to the 1st Marine Division’s intelligence director, he said. Had this second unit reported accurately what it witnessed, he indicated, that would have set off alarms and prodded commanders to investigate, he explained.
I’m not sure how to square that last paragraph with the LA Times‘s article a few days ago about Lance Cpl. Ryan Briones, who took photos of the aftermath and helped remove the bodies. According to the Times, Briones is a member of the 3/1, and he says he did note that the Iraqis were killed by gunshots, not by bombs.
WaPo says Bargewell’s report is expected by the end of the week. Meanwhile, stupidly, all 130,000 soldiers in Iraq are being forced to undergo “core values” (re-)training. And Iraqi PM al-Maliki is making good on his threat to launch his own probe of the killings.
I’ll leave you with this, from Time. A lot of people, including some milbloggers, have said the Marines should hang if they’re guilty. I’m not so sure.
Haditha has caused [one] senior Marine officer, the one reading up on historical atrocities, to reexamine the concept of punishment in America and it is here that he is resentful of the outside world, not just those who may have committed such acts. He was surprised by a passage in “America in Vietnam” which details how Americans traditionally think a soldier who commits a war crime should be put to death with little regard to the conditions or insight into the soldier himself. But a common murderer is treated more thoughtfully — his background, childhood, education and social circumstances are taken into consideration when looking at what punishment should be meted out. “Isn’t it a strange turn of events that Marines are expected to be perfect under the stresses and brutality of a guerrilla war, but society says we need to uncover every mitigating circumstance that would possibly explain why street criminals kill?”









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Thanks anyway Kieth, but I prefer to wait to hear what St. Katie has to say on the subject.
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 1, 2006 at 1:15 PM
Olbermann is having wet dreams, again. This is a crap incident and our fighting men and women are putting their lives on the line so the Keith Olbermanns of the world are free to say what they want. I have been saying this for a while now..what would FDR do in this situation? I have the answer…!!!does anyone else?????!!!!!
And by the way, Keith…do you think your ilk would be allowed these freedoms in the 12th century stinking cesspool they call mecca….??? Some answers, please.
Sandys Beach on June 1, 2006 at 1:18 PM
What a waste of a human being.
BirdEye on June 1, 2006 at 1:19 PM
http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/haditha_explaining_the_inexpli.html
thirteen28 on June 1, 2006 at 1:20 PM
“the incident for which the entire war may ultimately be remembered”
I thought this spot was owned by Abu Grieb. Or was it the WMD report? Or was it one of the host of other “bomb shells” championed by the left? Well I guess this is the ultimate incident until the next useful ultimate incident comes along.
Personally, 9/11 will be the “incident” for which I’ll be remembering this war.
GPE on June 1, 2006 at 1:28 PM
Olbermann is most likley next in line at CBS after “the perky one” gets fired. Does anyone watch this fools show.
birdman on June 1, 2006 at 1:39 PM
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
This is not how I remember the war.
I remember Saddam crawling out of the spider hole.
I remember the brave marines who have sacrificed for this country.
I remember how our troops kicked A$$!
I remember how the Democrats were against the war, after they supported the war. I rememebr Kerry the great Waffle King.
I remember we have 4 years without a bombing incidence in this country. Hope we can continue this record.
The rest, are just minor incidences.
BTW, do you remember how the insurgents beheaded AMERICAN CONTRACTORS AND HANGED THEIR HEADS ON A BRIDGE? I guess not. You never remember those things. I guess Democrats and liberals don’t like to remember those atrocities. Insurgents are freedom figthers to you. I am not surprise that Democrats support the insurgents, but not our troops. They have criticized our troops on a daily basis but they have never criticized the atrocities done by the insurgents.
I understand.
easy87us on June 1, 2006 at 1:39 PM
Right on, easy87us.
All Olbermann remembers is how to diss O’Rielly every week in his ‘Worst Person of the Day’ award. Too bad he won’t incude himself this time.
WC
WC on June 1, 2006 at 2:16 PM
I thought Keith whatisface died a couple of years ago on some other program. Still dead, apparently, from the neck up.
clyde on June 1, 2006 at 2:23 PM
Well, if what the Marines are doing is so “wrong”, and if the PM is soo miffed their is a simple solution.
Ask us to leave.
Bush says we are their because the Iraqi’s want us their, and we will leave when they ask us to. Well, ask us and lets move out. And 6 months from now when 1 Million people have died at the hands of the darling insurgants as part of their “re-education plan” we will probaly be torn apart for leaving by the same people that are tearing us apart now for being their.
Wyrd on June 1, 2006 at 2:38 PM
Ah cut him some slack… he’s got to do something to keep the moonbats happy while they wait for Rove to be indited… again! /s
Bob Mileti on June 1, 2006 at 2:46 PM
Who watches Keith Olberman? Maybe a couple of female mud wrestlers from Seattle.
The truth about Haditha is this: Were you to toss a handgrenade at random into a crowd, 98% of the dead would be terrorists. Could it be that our Marines had the dastardly luck to kill the innocent 2% of the population? C’mon Bush, stop taking Jimmy Carter pills and support troops who were merely defending themselves. Let’s also try John MurthaFu— for sedition.
MaiDee on June 1, 2006 at 3:58 PM
Easy87us…I can always count on you to say what my job’s requirements keep me from taking the time to type. Couldn’t agree with ya more…
BirdEye on June 1, 2006 at 5:16 PM
Last time I listen to anything this boob said I believe he was talking sports…..
sMack on June 1, 2006 at 7:04 PM