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	<title>Comments on: Blogfeuds: Hot Air vs. Jawa Report, Jeff Goldstein vs. pretty much every lefty blogger in America</title>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Additionally, it has come to my attention that the website Hot Air (Hmm- &#8217; Hot Air.&#8217; Why does that sound so familiar?) has decided that imitation is the greatest form of flattery. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Additionally, it has come to my attention that the website Hot Air (Hmm- &#8217; Hot Air.&#8217; Why does that sound so familiar?) has decided that imitation is the greatest form of flattery. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tel-Chai Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tel-Chai Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Meet Deborah Frisch, aka Professor Cyberstalker...&lt;/strong&gt;

Protein Wisdom was recently attacked by a most alarming cybertroll, who turned out to be a professor at the Arizona university, Deborah Frisch, who also maintain her own blog and has quite a record of stalking other people&#039;s blogs as well. And the me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Meet Deborah Frisch, aka Professor Cyberstalker&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Protein Wisdom was recently attacked by a most alarming cybertroll, who turned out to be a professor at the Arizona university, Deborah Frisch, who also maintain her own blog and has quite a record of stalking other people&#8217;s blogs as well. And the me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hennessy&#8217;s View &#187; Typical Liberal Harassment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hennessy&#8217;s View &#187; Typical Liberal Harassment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In Michelle Malkin&#8217;s words: After Jeff blew the whistle on the troll&#8217;s messages, his site crashed as a result of two DDOS attacks. The site remains down as of this morning. Jeff has been the target of unique unhingedness from the Left. His bold eloquence, sharp wit, and willingness to engage the other side have gotten under their skin. Drop him a note of support if you have a spare moment: jeff-at-proteinwisdom.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In Michelle Malkin&#8217;s words: After Jeff blew the whistle on the troll&#8217;s messages, his site crashed as a result of two DDOS attacks. The site remains down as of this morning. Jeff has been the target of unique unhingedness from the Left. His bold eloquence, sharp wit, and willingness to engage the other side have gotten under their skin. Drop him a note of support if you have a spare moment: jeff-at-proteinwisdom.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A BLOGGER UNDER SIEGE...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jeff Goldstein, who has been such an inspiration and good friend ever since I started blogging, is under attack. He--and his toddler son--have been the subject of abuse and harassment from a nutball leftist troll--who appears to hold a prominent......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A BLOGGER UNDER SIEGE&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Jeff Goldstein, who has been such an inspiration and good friend ever since I started blogging, is under attack. He&#8211;and his toddler son&#8211;have been the subject of abuse and harassment from a nutball leftist troll&#8211;who appears to hold a prominent&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rowane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll find a lot of good comments on Haditha at the anti-idiotarian Rottweiller 

http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006/?p=796#comments

Duty, Honor, Country
(in THAT order)
Rowane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll find a lot of good comments on Haditha at the anti-idiotarian Rottweiller </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006/?p=796#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006/?p=796#comments</a></p>
<p>Duty, Honor, Country<br />
(in THAT order)<br />
Rowane</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why, you’d have to be mad to be an intellectual who opposes progressivism!&quot;

Allahpundit &amp; all, please don&#039;t refer to such a regressive/archaic/puerile/simplistic bunch as &quot;progressive&quot;. Quit honoring this high-faluting term they gave themselves.

There is nothing progressive about:

- not fighting for women&#039;s rights for millions (Middle East, Africa, parts of Asia, etc.)
- being for socialism/communism
- suppressing free speech, unless it is yours (universities, city council of LA, ACLU of late, etc.)
- being an elitist while preaching submissiveness to all others
- living the jet life, while preaching conservation to the rest of us
- and so much more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why, you’d have to be mad to be an intellectual who opposes progressivism!&#8221;</p>
<p>Allahpundit &amp; all, please don&#8217;t refer to such a regressive/archaic/puerile/simplistic bunch as &#8220;progressive&#8221;. Quit honoring this high-faluting term they gave themselves.</p>
<p>There is nothing progressive about:</p>
<p>- not fighting for women&#8217;s rights for millions (Middle East, Africa, parts of Asia, etc.)<br />
- being for socialism/communism<br />
- suppressing free speech, unless it is yours (universities, city council of LA, ACLU of late, etc.)<br />
- being an elitist while preaching submissiveness to all others<br />
- living the jet life, while preaching conservation to the rest of us<br />
- and so much more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/haditha_explaining_the_inexpli.html</description>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as we&#039;re goin deep in thought today...
BLOG: 
.(1) An unforgivably ugly sounding word. 
.(2) A collection of writings which usually lives up to the sound.
BLOGGER: 
.(1) A diarist in search of an audience. 
.(2) A patient in search of a therapist but unable to pay by the hour.
.
BLOGGING: The act of pissing in the wind without experiencing relief to the bladder.
More levity at http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/12/144812.php
Caution:this site refers to the Al LA Times, dont get lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we&#8217;re goin deep in thought today&#8230;<br />
BLOG:<br />
.(1) An unforgivably ugly sounding word.<br />
.(2) A collection of writings which usually lives up to the sound.<br />
BLOGGER:<br />
.(1) A diarist in search of an audience.<br />
.(2) A patient in search of a therapist but unable to pay by the hour.<br />
.<br />
BLOGGING: The act of pissing in the wind without experiencing relief to the bladder.<br />
More levity at <a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/12/144812.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/12/144812.php</a><br />
Caution:this site refers to the Al LA Times, dont get lost.</p>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a new blog word. Like &#039;blegging&#039; for begging or favors, we need one for jealousy.(maybe you already have one) 
.
.....Maybe BLENVY....
.
You are intelligent, interesting &amp; hard working, but a strange bunch. Pefect for our reading needs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a new blog word. Like &#8216;blegging&#8217; for begging or favors, we need one for jealousy.(maybe you already have one)<br />
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&#8230;..Maybe BLENVY&#8230;.<br />
.<br />
You are intelligent, interesting &amp; hard working, but a strange bunch. Pefect for our reading needs!</p>
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		<title>By: easy87us</title>
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		<dc:creator>easy87us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hotair is just responding the accusation Murtha has launched against our marines. This is big in MSM. Hotair has to cover it and blog along.

It is all Murtha&#039;s fault.

easy87us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hotair is just responding the accusation Murtha has launched against our marines. This is big in MSM. Hotair has to cover it and blog along.</p>
<p>It is all Murtha&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>easy87us</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Vinnie had some good points yesterday as I stated on another thread, but I do think he needs to tone down the invective and save it for more deserving targets (e.g., Kos crowd).  And Allah shouldn&#039;t get into a pissing contest with him either, especially since we all know that both of you (and Michelle as well) support the troops and support the war effort.  

Take a deep breath everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Vinnie had some good points yesterday as I stated on another thread, but I do think he needs to tone down the invective and save it for more deserving targets (e.g., Kos crowd).  And Allah shouldn&#8217;t get into a pissing contest with him either, especially since we all know that both of you (and Michelle as well) support the troops and support the war effort.  </p>
<p>Take a deep breath everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Redhead Infidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redhead Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speculation about Haditha, and what did or did not happen, is nothing but a disservice to the Marines involved.  What does denouncing the Marines ahead of time accomplish?  Nothing except the establishment of the &quot;moral superiority&quot; of the denouncer.  

What&#039;s going on in the blogosphere now is a bit of deja vu.  When the story about USMC LT Ilario Pantano first started circulating, all the conservatives bloggers rallied in his defense.  UNTIL...his accuser, a fellow Marine, came forward with specific charges.  You could&#039;ve heard a pin drop in the blogosphere.  Those same conservatives that had sallied forth in Pantano&#039;s defense now were strangely silent, or even worse, mouthing platitudes like &quot;Well, IF it&#039;s true...&quot;  NO ONE stood by Pantano throughout the pre-court martial drudgery (&lt;a href=&quot;http://euphoria.jarkolicious.com/journal/category/exclusives/2-lt-ilario-pantano/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;except us&lt;/a&gt; - his loudmouth advocates), preferring instead to &quot;wait and see&quot;, &#039;cuz damn - &quot;if he was guilty, he&#039;d need to fry.&quot;  (There&#039;s that safe IF, IF, IF.)  The Pantano story was dropped like a hot potato.  

UNTIL...Pantano was cleared and the charges were dismissed.  Ohhhh - happy day in the blogosphere again!  Cries of &quot;YAY, Pantano, we were with you all the way, buddy!&quot; now resounded across the internet.  Right.  Ilario himself knows what&#039;s what.    

We have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://euphoria.jarkolicious.com/journal/2006/05/31/2427/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;highly unpopular view&lt;/a&gt; on the events in Haditha.  Bottom line:  we will never set ourselves up as judge, jury, and executioner of those Marines.  Ne-ver.  Personally, I&#039;ll refrain from judging a man under fire.  His military command will do that - they have the legal and moral right to do so, and he&#039;s subject to it.  But the rest of us are just background noise. 

Point of caution:  to speculate about the [unknown] actions of the Marines or to piously decry that in general the &quot;murdering of innocents is wrong and must be condemned in the strongest possible terms&quot; (no shit?!) sets you up as their moral superiors.  And who are y&#039;all to judge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speculation about Haditha, and what did or did not happen, is nothing but a disservice to the Marines involved.  What does denouncing the Marines ahead of time accomplish?  Nothing except the establishment of the &#8220;moral superiority&#8221; of the denouncer.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s going on in the blogosphere now is a bit of deja vu.  When the story about USMC LT Ilario Pantano first started circulating, all the conservatives bloggers rallied in his defense.  UNTIL&#8230;his accuser, a fellow Marine, came forward with specific charges.  You could&#8217;ve heard a pin drop in the blogosphere.  Those same conservatives that had sallied forth in Pantano&#8217;s defense now were strangely silent, or even worse, mouthing platitudes like &#8220;Well, IF it&#8217;s true&#8230;&#8221;  NO ONE stood by Pantano throughout the pre-court martial drudgery (<a href="http://euphoria.jarkolicious.com/journal/category/exclusives/2-lt-ilario-pantano/" rel="nofollow">except us</a> &#8211; his loudmouth advocates), preferring instead to &#8220;wait and see&#8221;, &#8216;cuz damn &#8211; &#8220;if he was guilty, he&#8217;d need to fry.&#8221;  (There&#8217;s that safe IF, IF, IF.)  The Pantano story was dropped like a hot potato.  </p>
<p>UNTIL&#8230;Pantano was cleared and the charges were dismissed.  Ohhhh &#8211; happy day in the blogosphere again!  Cries of &#8220;YAY, Pantano, we were with you all the way, buddy!&#8221; now resounded across the internet.  Right.  Ilario himself knows what&#8217;s what.    </p>
<p>We have a <a href="http://euphoria.jarkolicious.com/journal/2006/05/31/2427/" rel="nofollow">highly unpopular view</a> on the events in Haditha.  Bottom line:  we will never set ourselves up as judge, jury, and executioner of those Marines.  Ne-ver.  Personally, I&#8217;ll refrain from judging a man under fire.  His military command will do that &#8211; they have the legal and moral right to do so, and he&#8217;s subject to it.  But the rest of us are just background noise. </p>
<p>Point of caution:  to speculate about the [unknown] actions of the Marines or to piously decry that in general the &#8220;murdering of innocents is wrong and must be condemned in the strongest possible terms&#8221; (no shit?!) sets you up as their moral superiors.  And who are y&#8217;all to judge?</p>
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		<title>By: Blog of the Moderate Left &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Incidentally, Regarding Haditha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog of the Moderate Left &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Incidentally, Regarding Haditha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: Welcome those from Hot Air, where AllahPundit has decided I hate Jeff Goldstein because he&#8217;s on Klonopin.  Now, I do hate Jeff Goldstein.  But I&#8217;ve been very clear that attacking his usage of a mood stabilizer is reprehensible.  After all, as a user of fluoxetine, I have sympathy for those who need assistance with their sanity. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE: Welcome those from Hot Air, where AllahPundit has decided I hate Jeff Goldstein because he&#8217;s on Klonopin.  Now, I do hate Jeff Goldstein.  But I&#8217;ve been very clear that attacking his usage of a mood stabilizer is reprehensible.  After all, as a user of fluoxetine, I have sympathy for those who need assistance with their sanity. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CatholicConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>CatholicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can’t we all just blog along?&quot;

BirdEye on June 1, 2006 at 11:53 AM

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Really.

For the sake of blog.

Cocaine anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can’t we all just blog along?&#8221;</p>
<p>BirdEye on June 1, 2006 at 11:53 AM</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Really.</p>
<p>For the sake of blog.</p>
<p>Cocaine anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Dread Pirate Roberts VI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dread Pirate Roberts VI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what you get when the “Egos of the Anonymous” collide!</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Owens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree (I think with most folks on the right) that we need to be very careful in our coverage of the Haditha incident. We know that a Marine unit was ambushed with an IED, that  one Marine died and tow more were injured, and that in the aftermath of that event, two dozen Iraqis were killed including women and children. 

Two investigations have been launched by the NCIS. One investigation is focusing on the killing of the civilians to determine if a crime has been committed, and if so, determine who to charge, and with what offenses. The second investigation is apparently tasked with determining if a cover-up of the incident was attempted, and if so, determine who to charge, and with what offenses.

People have varying levels of comfort in discussing this case, brought about, perhaps, by the intemperate and inflammatory remarks of “ex-Marine” John Murtha, who stepped well beyond where he should have, assigning both guilt and motive more than 60 days in advance of the release of the report of the investigation, in advance of anyone being charged, and well in advance of any trial. Murtha has forgone due process to play politics with the lives of up to a Marines, and beyond that, went on to suggest that murdering civilians was U.S. military policy and that the highest levels of the military were instrumental in a cover-up that apparently never was.

Because Murtha would not allow this investigation to proceed at a natural pace, and insisted on rushing to judgement, we now find ourselves with a story that we almost have to comment on.

But I think we can agree that there are right ways and wrong ways to cover this. Pre-supposing guilt for specific crimes as so many of the center-left blogs have done is wrong, but it is permissible and perhaps even our duty—if bloggers can be said to have a duty—to attempt to provide the context of the situation as best we can as evidence allows.

We should be very careful and try to remain objective, however, and follow what I will dub “The Anti-Nancy Law.”

Nancy Grace, that &lt;I&gt;Vanderkinder&lt;/I&gt; on CNN, and others in the “drive-by media” immediately presupposed the guilt of the Duke Lacrosse team well before the first charges were filed, and they’ve been forced to backtrack ever since, but not before ruining the reputation of the accused.

We should try to comport ourselves with care, try to stick to the facts, and when we opine, make sure people know that we are sharing an opinion, not a fact. If we do that, there is no reason we cannot discuss this case within certain boundaries, and leaving the anti-military, anti-war left to spin this in a vacuum devoid of competing ideas, as Vinnie seems to suggest, is counterproductive for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree (I think with most folks on the right) that we need to be very careful in our coverage of the Haditha incident. We know that a Marine unit was ambushed with an IED, that  one Marine died and tow more were injured, and that in the aftermath of that event, two dozen Iraqis were killed including women and children. </p>
<p>Two investigations have been launched by the NCIS. One investigation is focusing on the killing of the civilians to determine if a crime has been committed, and if so, determine who to charge, and with what offenses. The second investigation is apparently tasked with determining if a cover-up of the incident was attempted, and if so, determine who to charge, and with what offenses.</p>
<p>People have varying levels of comfort in discussing this case, brought about, perhaps, by the intemperate and inflammatory remarks of “ex-Marine” John Murtha, who stepped well beyond where he should have, assigning both guilt and motive more than 60 days in advance of the release of the report of the investigation, in advance of anyone being charged, and well in advance of any trial. Murtha has forgone due process to play politics with the lives of up to a Marines, and beyond that, went on to suggest that murdering civilians was U.S. military policy and that the highest levels of the military were instrumental in a cover-up that apparently never was.</p>
<p>Because Murtha would not allow this investigation to proceed at a natural pace, and insisted on rushing to judgement, we now find ourselves with a story that we almost have to comment on.</p>
<p>But I think we can agree that there are right ways and wrong ways to cover this. Pre-supposing guilt for specific crimes as so many of the center-left blogs have done is wrong, but it is permissible and perhaps even our duty—if bloggers can be said to have a duty—to attempt to provide the context of the situation as best we can as evidence allows.</p>
<p>We should be very careful and try to remain objective, however, and follow what I will dub “The Anti-Nancy Law.”</p>
<p>Nancy Grace, that <i>Vanderkinder</i> on CNN, and others in the “drive-by media” immediately presupposed the guilt of the Duke Lacrosse team well before the first charges were filed, and they’ve been forced to backtrack ever since, but not before ruining the reputation of the accused.</p>
<p>We should try to comport ourselves with care, try to stick to the facts, and when we opine, make sure people know that we are sharing an opinion, not a fact. If we do that, there is no reason we cannot discuss this case within certain boundaries, and leaving the anti-military, anti-war left to spin this in a vacuum devoid of competing ideas, as Vinnie seems to suggest, is counterproductive for all.</p>
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		<title>By: venmax</title>
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		<dc:creator>venmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally speaking Jawa has a point.  The fact of the matter is that, unless you think the Military can&#039;t handle the matter effectively on their own, Haditha really isn&#039;t news.

Does it deserve SOME attention?  Sure - but not the amount Hot Air is giving it.  

Even if it turns out to be the worst you could imagine it means absolutely zip - zero - nada when it comes to the overall situation over there.  There is no direct challenge to the Iraqi Government in existence - just more crazy-ass nut-jobs blowing up civilians, and we&#039;ve seen how well that&#039;s worked for the Jihadis in convincing people to help them establish a new Caliphate over the past... oh I dunno... half-century or so.  Hasn&#039;t done sh*t for them.

This ain&#039;t Viet Nam with another Coherent Governmental entity threatening to replace the Democratic Government we support - it&#039;s just more wackos who hate the world, and the world hates them.

So see Haditha through?  Sure.  Get your panties in a wad about it and let the fruitcakes control the talking points?  No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally speaking Jawa has a point.  The fact of the matter is that, unless you think the Military can&#8217;t handle the matter effectively on their own, Haditha really isn&#8217;t news.</p>
<p>Does it deserve SOME attention?  Sure &#8211; but not the amount Hot Air is giving it.  </p>
<p>Even if it turns out to be the worst you could imagine it means absolutely zip &#8211; zero &#8211; nada when it comes to the overall situation over there.  There is no direct challenge to the Iraqi Government in existence &#8211; just more crazy-ass nut-jobs blowing up civilians, and we&#8217;ve seen how well that&#8217;s worked for the Jihadis in convincing people to help them establish a new Caliphate over the past&#8230; oh I dunno&#8230; half-century or so.  Hasn&#8217;t done sh*t for them.</p>
<p>This ain&#8217;t Viet Nam with another Coherent Governmental entity threatening to replace the Democratic Government we support &#8211; it&#8217;s just more wackos who hate the world, and the world hates them.</p>
<p>So see Haditha through?  Sure.  Get your panties in a wad about it and let the fruitcakes control the talking points?  No.</p>
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		<title>By: BirdEye</title>
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		<dc:creator>BirdEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we all just blog along?</description>
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		<title>By: Sugar Land</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sugar Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup... it&#039;s high school again.  Just call him a nerd, dweeb, loser... whatever and get over it.
That, or stop all of the whining, set up a meeting, and beat the crap out of each other.  Whoever wins was right.  Isn&#039;t that how this works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup&#8230; it&#8217;s high school again.  Just call him a nerd, dweeb, loser&#8230; whatever and get over it.<br />
That, or stop all of the whining, set up a meeting, and beat the crap out of each other.  Whoever wins was right.  Isn&#8217;t that how this works?</p>
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		<title>By: CatholicConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>CatholicConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about you guys, Bloggers boys and gals, but I love NASCAR.

Cool it down!

Beer anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about you guys, Bloggers boys and gals, but I love NASCAR.</p>
<p>Cool it down!</p>
<p>Beer anyone?</p>
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