NYT editorial on immigration name-checks “reality-based community”

posted at 4:24 pm on May 29, 2006 by Allahpundit

I love it when they pander to lefty bloggers:

Is it [conservatives’] fear that the United States as we know it is on the brink of disintegrating under a flood of poor people looking for work? That dread was expressed this month in a much-buzzed-about report from the Heritage Foundation. It warned that the Senate bill would increase the United States population by 103 million in 20 years. An uproar followed, and led to an amendment that shrank the bill’s guest-worker quotas. The foundation then revised its estimate down to 66 million.

But that is still a staggeringly ridiculous sum, considering that Mexico’s entire work force is only 43 million. We suppose it is possible that every last worker south of the border could move here, bringing family members and pets, but Mexico and Central America would have to be depopulated to make the conservatives’ nightmare come true. To the reality-based community, thankfully, the Senate bill is not a nightmare.

What, no reference to “wingnuts”?

Read the whole editorial; it’s a useful primer on cartoonish invective. The Senate is “realistic and humane,” the House is a “brick wall” whose leader, Jim Sensenbrenner, is filled with “deathly pessimism” and intent on maintaining a bargaining stance marked by its “ferocity” and “sullen defeatism.” And then there’s this:

It is hard to understand what — besides election-year pandering and xenophobic hostility — motivates their unwillingness to bend toward the flexible, sensible policy that immigrants, their families and their advocates, many business organizations and labor unions, and a majority of the Senate are seeking.

And to think that Kaus sees a pro-amnesty bias in the mainstream media. That wingnut!

Meanwhile, here’s a report from the Washington Times that barely, and I mean barely, qualifies as “news.” The Washington Post looks at various House Republicans’ attitude towards the Senate bill and finds, curiously enough, that those facing the toughest re-election campaigns in November are taking a hardline stance. So much for the polls claiming most Americans agree with the Bush amnesty plan. And here’s Newsweek on how another country polices its southern border. Drink in the hypocrisy.

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I wonder how many people working for the Times employ illegals? It would be interesting to know.

Same goes for the Washington Post, the LA Times, and the Chicago Tribune.

Something tells me at least one…

clyde on May 29, 2006 at 4:57 PM

Things have become so bad at The New York Times that it is difficult, if even possible, to tell the difference between its editorial and alleged “news” pages.

The Times hires, promotes and heralds people like Jason Blair as “rising stars” who, after close scrutiny and investigation, turn out to be liars, cheats and plagiarists. And, editors quitting their jobs or being fired does not begin to clear the prevailing and ongoing stench of bias!

Columnists, even opinion columnists, lose creativity, believability and originality when they repeat ad nauseam attacks upon conservatives for the sake of attacking conservatives and ignore fact and truth.

I will not commit the sins of the Times and reiterate what has a thousand times been written about the relationship between George Bush, Vicente Fox, immigration, the U.S. Senate, Mexico, and illegal alien Mexicans. Suffice it to say that unless the U.S. House repudiates and totally reworks the atrocious bill regurgitated by our cowardly Senate, all of the NY Times’ fallacious, exaggerated claims will become real, and our heritage history.

The influx of Mexicans and invasion by Mexico WILL ABSOLUTELY destroy our nation as we know it!

ForYourEdification on May 29, 2006 at 4:59 PM

“But that is still a staggeringly ridiculous sum, considering that Mexico’s entire work force is only 43 million.”

That is a staggeringly ridiculous point, even by the pitiful standards of the NYT and the open borders forces in general. And it says volumes about where this debate is mired and how the open borders lobby is always getting away with the most superficially idiotic arguments.

The bill is of course not limited to Mexicans. Anyone in the world is a potential “guest worker.” Most likely, businesses will go for even poorer (ie, cheaper) Asians and the Latinos will have to continue to sneak over.

So it’s less a question of Mexico’s 43 million people and more a question of the five-billion-plus people from countries poorer than Mexico. The Heritage estimate is too low.

Alex K on May 29, 2006 at 5:14 PM

Of course, what they don’t mention, is that it won’t be only Mexicans coming here under any proposed guest worker program. We may be very well be opening up the floodgates to massive Muslim immigration, as well:


If we wind up with millions of Muslim immigrants imported strictly for economic reasons, Bush and the GOP will have completely sold our national security down the river, and their credibility on fighting the GWoT, as well.

tommy1 on May 29, 2006 at 5:19 PM

One more article touching on the subject of Muslim immigration to the US:


tommy1 on May 29, 2006 at 5:22 PM

When you read stuff like this, just remember, they are the Enemy Press. The Enemy Press. The Enemy Press.

ScottG on May 29, 2006 at 5:29 PM

This is an example of the total disconnect of the MSM. They’re working on the assumption that all us “white folks” are scared to death about being over run by Hispanics.
In their zeal to label someone as a racist and bigots they’re view of the rest of the world and the wider problem of illegal immigration has become myopic.

Cpilot on May 29, 2006 at 7:00 PM

I watch many cultures: Indian, Muslim, and others come in and take over the whole industry of an area. Hotels, convenience stores. Where grants are available, they take them and out-compte American families. They don’t respect business laws. If the grants are available for a short time, they “sell” to a family member to get a fresh grant. I think if these people want the American dream, they need to be citizens and pledge allegience to America. And they should be not be given an advantage over law abiding Americans trying to compete in the business market.

In medicine, foriegn medical graduates take advantage of rural grants, come and provide “primary care”, then leave. Or they refer preferentially to other foriegn physicians whereever a medical charge is available — whether the medical service or procedure is needed or not. People are bounce through these networks like a pinball in a pinball machine, never get their medical needs addressed, and the money goes to build the empire or is shipped back home. There are some VERY good foriegn medical grads, but for every one of them, there are 10 who came and took advantage of system.

I think there are now many powerful, financially contributing lobbies fighting the Mexican immigration issue, because it will affect them too. My ancestors were here in 1776, and I’m all for this country being the “last best hope” in a free world, but I don’t want my hard earned money helping families who despise America and its values out-compete others.

I try very hard not to be prejudiced, but it gets harder every day. My overhead rises higher and higher due to laws made because of cheating foriegners gaming the system. My malpractice rises higher in part due to mistakes of many forign doctors who don’t care about thier patients.

Again, I don’t want to paint everyone in a culture with the same brush, but there is a disproportionate share of people who game the system among some cultures. Some may call it racial profiling, but there is good wisdom in good statistical analysis and targeting limited resources to areas likely to yield the greatest number of cheaters and lawbreakers.

CountryDoc on May 29, 2006 at 8:49 PM

Hispanics, Muslims and Libs
Hispanics, Muslims and Libs
(Clicking the heels of my rubby slippers like mad)

Hening on May 29, 2006 at 8:52 PM

At the very least, this NY Slimes position should stiffen the spines of the House Republicans.

Hang on, congressmen. This fight is for ‘all the marbles’.

dman on May 29, 2006 at 11:29 PM

Lest anybody still doubts that this is an amnesty they are proposing, one more article from today’s VDARE:


The immigrants will not have to learn any functional English and, far from paying their back taxes, will undoubtedly wind up with tax refunds at our expense.

tommy1 on May 30, 2006 at 12:35 AM

“flexible, sensible policy” my Aunt Hattie’s bloomers! Do these fools have no eyes to see with? How cn we, as a Nation, retain our culture if we are flooded with a hoarde of illegals who refuse to assimilate?

The garbage that “many business organizations and labor unions, and a majority of the Senate are seeking” is nothing more than an increase of their power or their bottom line. After all, the RINOs and the DhimmicRATS are banking on millions of new, liberal, voters. business organizations are banking on cheap labor. The Unions are seeing millions of new, Due$ paying members.

None of them care that the very existance of the illegal alien problem is killing many small towns, all the non-skilled jobs are being snapped up by illegals, at half the wages, instead of the high school students that used to take these jobs.

I picked, gaded, packed, and loaded many boxes of tomatoes and cut and loaded many loads of pulpwood when I was in high school. It was hard work, but at leasst it gave me a way to go and a little spending money. The kids today have nothing but fastfood restaurants they can work in and they are starting to hire illegals, too.

Everywhere you go in this small town, you see vehicles with mexican flags on them.

You can’t go to the hospital ER anymore without siting in the wating room, filled with mexicans, for 2 or 3 hours.

When you go to the grocery store you invariably wind up behind either a groupp of mexicans who are unable to make themselves understood by the checker or a mexican woman who is using a “Food Stamp” card.

What has our beloved country become, a province of mexico?

Why are our pliticians stabbing us in the back? They don’t lsten to letters, phone calls, faxes, or e-mails. My Senator is going to be in town for a festival next week, when he gives his little speech and asks for “Questions from the audience” I’m going to ask the (dis)Honorable Mark Pryor why he’s tying to put the final nail in the coffin of South Arkansas.

Duty, Honor, Country
(in THAT order)

Rowane on May 30, 2006 at 7:59 AM

Mind boggling! The Slimes’ disdain and contempt for the average American is on display for all to see. To argue that everything would be great if all of Mexico and Central America, i.e., 150 million people at present and growing at 2% a year according to the 2005 World Population Data Sheet (I am a demographer, so I keep the chart on my wall), came to the U.S. defies rational thought.

Don’t forget that illegals from elsewhere would also get amnesty and be eligible to sponsor their relatives to come here. Why not take South America’s and Caribbean’s 420 million (and growing at 1.5% a year) while we are at it? There will then be plenty of nannies for the Slimes’ editors and spouses to exploit even as the nation self-destructs.

ptolemy on May 30, 2006 at 11:11 AM