Good news and bad news about honor killings in Turkey

posted at 9:54 am on May 26, 2006 by Allahpundit

The good news is, the number of murders appears to be declining. The bad news is, it’s because women are being pressured to kill themselves. Or so the UN suspects.

Some of these “suicides” involve bulletholes in the victim’s back. Go figure.

There’s lots of vivid detail in that Times of London article. Read it all, including/especially this passage:

One brazen case [of an honor killing] was that of Guldunya Toren, who was killed in an Istanbul hospital two years ago by her brothers for having a baby after being raped. She had refused to marry her rapist, run away, gone to police several times and been shot once already in the streets of Istanbul, before her brothers tracked her to hospital.

Read this terrific Spiegel report, too, on the clash between secularists and fundamentalists in Turkey. I promised last week in my post about the jihadi courtroom killer to follow the fallout from the incident; read Spiegel and note how the fundamentalists were received at the judge’s funeral. The culture clash over the headscarf is fascinating too, particularly the extent to which some Turkish politicians are willing to take it. Quote:

Neither students nor teachers, nor doctors or public employees are allowed to cover their hair. The ban also applies to the wives of leading AKP politicians who wear headscarves — such as Erdogan’s spouse Emine and the wife of Foreign Minister Abdullah Gül. Hayrünnisa. They’re not invited when President Sezer holds state receptions — and for months a heated debate discussion has been going on in Turkey as to whether Erdogan could be allowed to become President — which seems to be his ambition — given that his wife wears a headscarf.

Speaking of judges and reform, here’s the latest from Egypt.

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Will this tension between fundamentalists & secularists lead to civil war in Turkey???
Stay tuned…..

Abigail Adams on May 26, 2006 at 10:39 AM

Let them at each other and God will sort it out!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on May 26, 2006 at 10:41 AM

I don’t think so but it might lead to an insurrection or a revolution against the ruiling islamic party. They won by promising to fix the corruption in the army and the secular government and not only have they NOT done that but it appears to be getting worse. On top of which Turkey is not what you’d call an islamic country; when it lost the first world war it was made secular so this kinda of garbage would not happen. And it lasted.

Defector01 on May 26, 2006 at 12:03 PM

I am shocked- shocked! that Susan Serandon isn’t all over this…. /sarcasm

kaseiryu on May 26, 2006 at 6:52 PM

Lord God,
After reading this would anyone believe the year is 2006?

NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on May 26, 2006 at 8:50 PM

I’ve been following the honor killings and ‘forced suicides’for awhile now. It is sadder than sad. Islam is a false relgion which poisons the lives of it’s faithful. Pride and honor are tied to fear and a misbegotten sense of justice.
A young girl who is raped can be hanged for dishonoring her family. A male family member can kill a sister/cousin in the street because she talked to a man outside of the family in public. One thing I know for certain about Shariah Law-I never want to see it established here in this country.

Doug on May 27, 2006 at 2:32 AM

A pure Monotheistic Religion is polluted by the superstitions formerly invoked to enforce the rigid pagan folkways of desert namads living on the edge of starvation. The incantations have overwhelmed piety and prayer. It is what happens when a soi disant Super-Prophet lives too long and neglects to have himself martyred.

Waumpuscat on May 27, 2006 at 5:51 PM

Between the Chinese and Indians offing their female populations, and the Middle Eastern system of killing them for honor, and the population decline in Europe, rampant disease in Africa, I’d say that we got this whole overpopulation thing nipped in the bud. Looks like a buyer’s market ascending in real estate. Way to go!

Scherzophrenic on May 29, 2006 at 2:17 AM