Immigration smackdown: Bingaman vs. McCain (Update: Bingaman amendment passes)

posted at 12:08 pm on May 25, 2006 by Allahpundit

Michelle calls it “the most important debate of the year.” I haven’t watched it myself yet, but apparently Bingaman wants to cap the number of “guest workers” at a mere 650,000 — and McCain flips out, because who are we to impose caps on anyone? It’s positively un-American, he says — which, strictly speaking, in light of the last twenty years of Congressional legislation on this subject, is technically true.

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Update: Meanwhile in Arizona, a state version of the McConnell amendment requiring photo ID to vote in elections is under siege. Naturally.

Update: Despite McCain’s best efforts, Bingaman pushed the cap through. Final tally: 51-47. Twenty-two Republicans voted no — but nineteen Democrats and independents, thankfully, voted yes. They are:

Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Carper (D-DE)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)

Update: McCain hits rock bottom.


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Then why cap the number of elected representatives! Let’s let everyone vote on everything!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on May 25, 2006 at 12:24 PM

I guess we can’t attach Rep/Sen term limits on this bill? retoactive?

Brian on May 25, 2006 at 12:29 PM

Just received an email from Santorum stating, “Today, when the Senate votes on a final immigration reform bill, I cannot support it because it rewards illegal behavior, threatens our social-welfare system, devalues the legal-immigration process, turns illegal immigrants into permanent residents, and fails the test of history.”

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on May 25, 2006 at 12:49 PM

McCain has lost his f*&^%$#@ mind and the republican senate is close to being there with him. What the hell is wrong with these people. How can these pompous, preening buffoons not see that they are selling out our country wholesale? This is how and why revolutions foment in the hearts of honorable men because the ones in congress are neither honorable nor men.

Asmodeus on May 25, 2006 at 12:57 PM

McCain is an idiot. I’m glad he fell on his ass in the presidential primary. Nothing more than a lighter-weight Ted Kennedy. God. Why not just do away with voting period? Just let anyone do anything they want anytime anywhere. That way we could do away with Congress too. Make Kennedy, McCain and people like Cynthia McKinney, Nancy Pelosi et al go get real jobs instead of proving to the world they are mental incompetents on a daily basis.

Whatever we do, make sure it’s in Spanish, so our newest
134,509,028,407,958,392,9347 citizens from Mexico aren’t bothered by the language.

clyde on May 25, 2006 at 1:06 PM

I wonder if we can explain to McCain that the Newspapers and the MSM won’t get him the nomination for President.

Snake307 on May 25, 2006 at 1:13 PM

I have seen much in my 50 plus years, and one thing life experience has shown me is that America is a very competitive place compared to other countries and not everyone can successfully compete here. Those that have trouble tend to be frustrated and see themselves as victims of the United States. Most people think we have enough victims here already and amnesty for illegal aliens will give permanent status to millions more. If we do add millions more, then when our education system stays watered down, our hospitals continue to go broke, and crime stays up, who are the real victims and of what?

This is John McCain’s “Dixie Chicks” moment. Good luck in 2008.

Shmo on May 25, 2006 at 1:15 PM

Let’s just crap all over our own people, especially our own poor, so we can accomodate millions of ignorant, illiterate, unskilled criminals from third world countries. McCain is an idiot, & a pompous ass.

BeachBaby on May 25, 2006 at 1:18 PM

In addition to my philosophical opposition to unlimted “guest workers”, my accountant’s mind focuses on a practical consideration. How will the Immigration Service, which is already unable to process those seeking LEGAL entry, process and control unlimted numbers? This is a breaucratic nightmare in the making.

Ann on May 25, 2006 at 1:20 PM

At least Hillary is smarter than McCain. So little talent, so little brains.

Shmo on May 25, 2006 at 1:24 PM

The majority of the senate has lost its collective mind . . . it’s absolutely insane and it represents no one I know.

rplat on May 25, 2006 at 1:26 PM

McCain is truly emblematic of what is wrong with the insular, inbred culture festering within the District of Crack.

These have been “interesting times” for McCain, from telling the American worker that “you can’t” pick lettuce, to this latest gem. Indeed, he has become Kennedy Lite. I am utterly disgusted.

R17

Kid from Brooklyn on May 25, 2006 at 1:26 PM

Watching McCain in an interview dissemble and skirt around the truth reminded me of Howard Dean. What a terrible sentence to have to write! But it’s true.

Doug on May 25, 2006 at 1:46 PM

I’VE GOT IT!!!

We’ll build a wall around Arizona and McCain can have all the illegals he wants!!

venmax on May 25, 2006 at 1:56 PM

Realize that it is not just McCain, but 22 Senate Republicans voted against any sort of limit on immigration.

Clark1 on May 25, 2006 at 2:02 PM

McCain is trying so hard to become President that just like Senor Bush he is failing the people that will put him there. We need to find a true conservative for the White House. Just another thought. Between McCain and Hillary? Which one is the lesser of two evils?

EricN on May 25, 2006 at 2:09 PM

I bet my two anal plastic Rhino’s voted “NO”…. (Snowe/Collins). Anybody got the whole vote in its’ entirety?

Venmax: I LOVE the wall around Arizona idea! HA!

horsepower_1st on May 25, 2006 at 2:12 PM

EricN:

To pick between McCain and Hillary is as if to have to choose between gonnorhea and syphillus (and with either one, you get it the same way!)

horsepower_1st on May 25, 2006 at 2:15 PM

McCain looked like the whiny liberal. All he was doing was creating sound bites for himself. His freaking argument was against himself. He is a stupid jerk!

These guys are making me sick. They are making a mockery of our sovereignty. They are beating this horse so much we are starting to be desensitized. We are talking about granting our most prized possession (citizenship) to ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are not coming here to live out the American dream. They don’t assimilate. They don’t learn the language. They don’t pay taxes. They steal citizen’s identity. They demand our respect but show none to us.

These Washington A-holes are trying to turn the United States into Americanadexico. They are trying to remove our borders for their own power. They are selling us out for the love of money.

robman27 on May 25, 2006 at 2:18 PM

It’s nice to know that a cap passed but my joy is tempered by the fact that the cap is larger than the city of Boston.

MaiDee on May 25, 2006 at 2:19 PM

Notice, all you fine people from Virginia how our 2 senators voted.
Warner (R-VA), Nay
Allen (R-VA), Yea
That’s right, Warner voted with the illegal alien lobby AGAIN to not cap the number of guest workers. This clown has gotta go. He will vote for the overall bill. Also note George Allen consistently voting against the madness of the Senate. Could he be an emerging Presedential candidate?

Jonesy on May 25, 2006 at 2:25 PM

Indeed, it’s not just McCain, but McCain is the media whore. McCain is the one touted by the MsM as the Republican ideal. McCain, of McCain-Feingold fame, has shown virtually no interest in upholding the Constitution he swore to defend (and defended heroically in another life). So although 21 others sold out, it begins and ends with McCain.

R17

Kid from Brooklyn on May 25, 2006 at 2:29 PM

When you can’t back up your argument with facts, play the race/victim card. This used to be a tactic employed exclusivly by the left. McCain appears to have learned well from Team Lefty and has become quite adept at playing it.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson couldn’t have done better.

Also, McCains comments about Europe are horribly misleading, nearly ever example he cites (riots etc) can be tied directly to Muslim immigrants who by law in France have not been allowed to assimilate. McCain seems to think that everyone who comes here wants to assimlilate, perhaps he should visit Santa Ana, CA sometime.

thegreatsatan on May 25, 2006 at 2:35 PM

Half the old farts in the Senate are obviously senile. Just go sit in the senate gallery some time for a vote and see just how old and wiped out many of them are. In their mind’s eye, this is about Ellis Island not Laredo Texas.

Shmo on May 25, 2006 at 2:36 PM

Shmo, she might be smart but I don’t see Mrs. Clinton on the list of the “Yes” votes for this amendment.

The House might save us from the monstrousity which the ‘comprehensive’ immigration bill is.

The majority is two-stepping this monster of a challenge. The Senate (not so threatened this fall) is playing to the employers and taking the ‘higher cultural/intellectual and elitist road’

The House (very threatened this fall and receiving thousands of bricks, literally, in the mail – they can’t be deleted or shredded – http://www.send-a-brick.com ) are getting it. Nothing might be done this year, which is better than the Senate’s idiosyncracy.

Entelechy on May 25, 2006 at 2:37 PM

George Allen is the man, consistent and truthful.

Easy87us

easy87us on May 25, 2006 at 2:39 PM

One of the more interresting angles to the Amnest Bill is that after an Illegal files his tax return for the three year period and pays his so called taxes(sure), he will be eligible for the EarnedI ncome Tax Credit. About $4,500 per individual on the return. We will rewarding these illegals with hard cash. This beyond strange. Our Senate is a pack of whores.

pat on May 25, 2006 at 2:42 PM

McCain vs Hillary = Stay at home

thegreatsatan on May 25, 2006 at 2:43 PM

I’m hearing George Allen’s name pop up quite a bit in the private political debates. But not in the mainstream of public discussion. Hmm…

Lawrence on May 25, 2006 at 2:47 PM

I guess McCain is so desperate to be President he will sell the country down the river to gain approval from the MSM & their fellow travelers.
Note to Senator McCain- keep this up and there won’t be a country to be President of. Sheesh.

Abigail Adams on May 25, 2006 at 2:47 PM

Why do I feel that all Americans that have been true citizens longer than 5 years, 10 years, hell 100 years, have less say in these current matters than any alien being anywhere in the world.
1 or 2 Mexicans in Tijuana get more respect from my government than I do. 1 or 2 hatefilled Muslim murderers in Gitmo get more respect/ attention than Michelle M does.
It has become a reality, the oposition to our founders view of democracy has invaded the inner core of America and is taking the lead on this race for humanity.
New World Order SUCKS!

shooter on May 25, 2006 at 3:08 PM

Another nail next to Martinez. Grr.

At this point, I’d rather elect illegal aliens to congress, at least then we wouldn’t have a lame duck trying to pass himself/herself off as a lion.

Enoxo on May 25, 2006 at 3:23 PM

What we have is Anarchy.

Where does it say in the US Constitution that the Senate is the employment agency for Mexico?

They are giving college to Illegal Aliens, earned income tax credit, welfare benefits and list goes on and on.

They care more about Illegals than they do about 280 million US Citizens that are going to have to cough up $500 million dollars in the next 10 years.

80-90% of US citizens want our borders enforced and they are doing nothing, I repeat nothing to secure the borders and fine employers for violating our laws.

These Traitors should be impeached for violating their solemn oath to the Constitution and the American people.

These seditious criminals are giving the American People the middle finger and mooning us at the same time.

ScottyDog on May 25, 2006 at 3:29 PM

OK Lest give them a FAIR number. They want 650,000 new immigrants. OK. We have at least 20 countries with people that want to come to America, right? So, 650,000 divided by 20 (probably more) is 32,500. OK, Mexico you can send us 32,500 annualy to the US. Hell, we’ll double it, you are our neighbor after all. So Mexico gets to send us 65,000 immigrants every year. TOTAL. That allows all countries and peoples, who wish to participate in this melting pot, to participate, FAIRLY.
Maybe this way we could even keep some highly trained scientists, IT techs, doctors, nurses, etc. How much fruit can one need? As LA Mayor would say, they’re just lettuce pickers. Yeah, millions of them.

shooter on May 25, 2006 at 3:33 PM

Mr McCain is indeed scary. However the whole thing is scary. They basically are passing unlimited immigration into the US. No caps on this. No caps on that. Do they really believe the crap that they spout?

Mr Shooter says:
“They want 650,000 new immigrants. OK. We have at least 20 countries with people that want to come to America, right?”

You need to watch the video. 650,000 is just for one category! What they are really advocating and saying is “all in, all in, free”

Altura Ct. on May 25, 2006 at 4:07 PM

old farts. i really like that. i think that’s how i’ll refer to them from now on.
xoxo

pullingmyhairout on May 25, 2006 at 5:02 PM

And this, if you havent read all of “DeMint Lists “Top Ten Reasons to Oppose the Senate Amnesty Bill”
# 8 is unreal, Senator OSAMA OBAMA brings us this:
The Senate approved an amendment by Senator Obama extending Davis-Bacon “prevailing wage” provisions for guest workers, but not American citizens, in all occupations covered by Davis-Bacon (currently limited to federally paid work). Small businesses would be forced to pay inflated wages to guest workers above the pay American citizens receive for performing the same work. WHAT THE F? damn nuckfutters!
You should read all 10 of these. MM has them as well.
I’ll watch the video now, just before I list my business for sale.

shooter on May 25, 2006 at 5:14 PM