Breaking: Senate passes immigration bill

posted at 5:56 pm on May 25, 2006 by Allahpundit

They’re still voting, but Fox just broke in to say that there are already 51 yeses.

I’ll have the roll as soon as it’s up.

Update: 62-36. Lincoln Chafee, appropriately, was presiding at the time.

Update: How perfectly symbolic that they’d pass this bill on a day when Vicente Fox is in the United States. He’s set to address the California legislature at 4:30 PST and then head off to a state dinner being given in his honor by Schwarzenegger. At least one state assemblyman won’t be attending either function. Meanwhile, Expose the Left has audio of Rush Limbaugh raking Tony Snow over the coals this afternoon on immigration.

Update: Congrats to Senator McCain for managing to pack so much canned platitudinal nonsense into so few words:

“Why not say to those undocumented workers who are working the jobs that the rest of us refuse, come out from the shadows,” said Arizona Republican John McCain, a key architect of the bill.

Update: NPR compares the House and Senate bills.

Update: Here’s the roll via the Senate website.

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Update: The first leak in the dam:

A number of Senate Republicans, including Mr. McCain, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said that they were reaching out to their House colleagues and that some seemed interested in finding common ground. The leader of the conservative caucus in the House, Representative Mike Pence, Republican of Indiana, proposed a bill on Tuesday that would allow illegal immigrants to become guest workers, though they would not be allowed to become permanent residents or citizens.

Update: Pence redeems himself a bit with this line: “I agree with the president that a rational middle ground can be found between amnesty and mass deportation, but I disagree with the president that amnesty is the middle ground.”

Update: The final indignity: a last-minute amendment requires that the U.S. consult with Mexico before building a fence. Michelle has details.

Update: Captain Ed says: Calm. Down.

Update: Our affiliate, Bryan of Sanctuary, imagines the new fence-building protocol:

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Please read Sen. Jeff Sessions summary of what is in the bill just passed by those morons. Truly scary stuff.

http://www.humanevents.com

I can’t believe this thing passed. I’ve never been more angry and discouraged.

BacaDog on May 26, 2006 at 12:50 PM

Who else thinks Bush’s press conference coinciding with the other king’s (Vicente fox) speech was NOT a coincidence???

I’ve always mocked conspiracy theorists and now I am one. I almost think this shooting thing could be related to keeping what Fox said out of the spot light.

I never thought I’d say bring the troops home, but they are fighting for a country that’s been sold down the Rio Grande, and I want them back to help defend us from the rulers!

Thank you Veterans and active soldiers for getting our country sooo far, now it’s up to us at-home patriots to do something here-still not sure what.

On a side note-Fly Old Glory, every day! Remind this country of its heritage!!!! And donating to the MCDC is great. AND giving to those candidates that support our soveriegnty is another great option.

NTWR on May 26, 2006 at 1:09 PM

NTWR-”now it’s up to us at-home patriots to do something here-still not sure what.”

our founders knew exactly what to do when a tyrannical government abdicated all vestiges of “representing” them in any meaningful way–i just pray “we the people” have the will to do what’s necessary before we have two utterly corrupt socialist dictatorship controlled, poverty stricken populations grinning toothlessly at each other across the rio grande.

sgbrown68 on May 26, 2006 at 1:54 PM

We cannot be tricked by senators up for re-election being ‘allowed’ to vote against this bill. This is simply the politicos trying to manipulate US.

Do some homework: if your senator is a RINO, vote him or her out, even if they voted ‘no’ on this bill. We need to make our voices heard, and our political muscle felt. Once the illegals get the vote, we will have neither.

We’re in a war, and every war has collateral damage and friendly fire. Some conservative senators may lose this November, but they can be restored in future elections. We’re struggling for our nation, not a party or ideology. We should especially ponder this over the Memorial Day weekend.

dman on May 26, 2006 at 2:08 PM

sgbrown68, What kind of “tea” can we toss over the side of the “boat” of America?

dman, I agree about collateral damage. We need to stand for our principles, wherever we find them and purge the “representatives” who mock our will, wherever we find them too.

NTWR on May 26, 2006 at 2:21 PM

I see Senator Palpatine (Frist) and the Imperial Senate have put the interests of the Sith(Mexican Presidente and his government) above that of the American people.

Ready for the Rebel Alliance??

MCPO Airdale on May 26, 2006 at 2:28 PM

NTWR-”What kind of tea can we toss over the side of the boat of America?”

we don’t toss anything, we secede. that’s where all of this is heading anyways. as far as i’m concerned mexico can have calif., oregon, washington st. (dc, too, for that matter), new england, ny, pa, il, md, and mich. let the worthless senators that those states give lifetime tenure to have fun playing hide the burrito w/vincente and his narco-terrorist buddies that run the show down there anyways. i want my constitution, my sovereignty, my culture, and my rule of law back, thank you very much.

sgbrown68 on May 26, 2006 at 2:53 PM

I would be happy to donate to any legal action against these yahoos.

In the meantime, it’s too dangerous to stop paying taxes. Marching in the streets is pointless, and most of us have lives that preclude it anyway. Email and the telephone haven’t gotten us anywhere.

What if we all stopped reporting for jury duty?

kate q on May 26, 2006 at 3:07 PM

I seem to recall that candidate ‘dubya’ was touted as being popular with hispanics in Texas, and could deliver the hispanic vote. Now we know why – and how. We just weren’t told – to whom.

dman on May 26, 2006 at 4:52 PM

No, don’t secede. We bought these parts of the country fair and square! (And I just bought a house in Kali)The vast majority of Kalifornians HATE our senators. Look at our crappy “sliver of shame” gerrymandered so that only the liberals along the coast get any say in a vote. This is why liberals want to get rid of the electoral college. They’ve seen the effectiveness in this state. Conservatives are screwed in this area, regardless of our votes. Plus these states have natural resources and beauty that would be schilled away by the takers. As I’ve learned by watching trust fund acquaintances- that which is given to you freely you don’t give a @%*! about.

The RINO’s that voted for this should from now-on be referred to as the Banditos. No more “gang of 14.” They are stealing from US citizens to give to illegals. Banditos have a long history in the region I’m from-none of it is positive.

NTWR on May 26, 2006 at 5:09 PM

i thought about this all day: what is the end-game here!

why would the govt continue to ignore the vast majority of americans. they keep spoon feeding us outright lies.
is there a deliberate desire to dilute our voting power,
you know the illegals are already voting in our elections
and they are voting democratic,and we know the democratic party is not nothing more that the socialist party of america, so why would america’s representative’s continue
to turn ther backs on this? lets see, europe is socialist!
south america is mostly socialist! canada…

seems to me someone wants america to become socialist too.
lets see, the illegals vote socialist,the blacks vote socialist and half the white voters vote socialist
seems like our votes are getting more diluted every day,

“welcome to a new socialist america” coming soon
could this be the only way to ease america into a new world
order and erode the strong nationalistic feelings true american hold dear!!!

just a thought

mike hale on May 26, 2006 at 6:41 PM

This is pathetic. I hope the House tramples all over this sham.

doll on May 26, 2006 at 7:09 PM

Something I’ve never understood. How do illegals get welfare? Mortgages? I’m not being sarcastic. I really don’t know.

msflea on May 27, 2006 at 7:34 AM

They pay a $2000 fine and get earned income tax credits, social security, higher than minimum wage, free medical, subsidized college, and a non-assimilation agreement, more job protections than citizens.

We can’t send them back?

We could buy every illegal a first class air ticket, put them up in luxury hotels at the airport, and give them free dentures and facelifts while they were waiting and it would still be cheaper than the back breaking debt burden these cheaters will put on our backs.

entagor on May 27, 2006 at 9:36 AM

One more thought, they will be draining social security. Low income depositors take out way more than they put in. After two years of collecting, it is all welfare. (I used to work at social security).

Social security is not funded by the rich. It is funded by the middle class.

entagor on May 27, 2006 at 9:38 AM

There are people on this thread who say “Vote the RINO’s out”, “So what if some conservatives go down in the process, it’s just collateral damage”, “We’ll re-elect them in ’08″. Do you seriously think that if the Democrats take the Legislative branch in ’06, nothing of any importance will transpire until the ’08 elections? The war will continue to be funded, conservative judges will continue to be appointed, the new Senate will confirm John Bolton? There won’t be an Impeachment? (Oh, I forgot, some of you want that, “President Pelosi” has a nice alliterative ring to it).

Some of you want to form a third party, a true Conservative party. We did that here in NY 40 years ago (I say “we” because I was part of it). We were going to either pull the Republicans to the right or teach them a lesson. We taught them a lesson all right, we stole their best and brightest and “left” behind a bunch of RINO castrato’s.

We have all been enraged by the staged media event of 3/25/06 and it’s follow up events. Last week Allahpundit, or maybe Bryan, asked on this site “Why Now?” re: Concern over illegal immigration. Of maybe 100 posts, only one person suggested that this (3/25/etc.) was staged by the Democrats. I think he (or she) hit the nail on the head. Remember, the Democrats control the media, the unions, the glitterati, the acedemia and all the relativist “Hate America First’er”. Who better to stage this event? Who better to profit by turning Red State America against Bush and the Republicans? 3/25 is their (the “Hate America First” crowd) 9/11.

If you must send a message to the Republicans, do it in the primaries, but in the Nov. election, don’t stay home, hold your noses and vote Republican. Otherwise, I foresee Conservatives (as we know them) disappearing from the political scene.

When pushed to the edge of the precipice, “one step backward” is not an option.

right ascension on May 27, 2006 at 10:55 AM

PRESIDENTE FOX VISITS CALIFORNIA….

He was here yesterday yuckin it up with various leaders including the Terminator. Presidente Fox lectured our leaders about immigration, border control, and God only knows what else he said behind closed doors. I’m waiting for other leaders of Central and South America to visit the USA. They can come here to California and inspect our facilities, making sure their citizens have full access to our hospitals, housing, education, and of course…a good retirement from Uncle Sugar. Maybe these leaders can scold some of us who own homes and have good jobs about being stingy and the benifits of redistribution of the wealth. Yea that’s the ticket. We’re a bunch of stingy slobs and we need to learn to “make nice” with our neighbors.

SparkyFD on May 27, 2006 at 11:02 AM

Oh..one other thought…

Because there are so many illegal Mexican Nationals in the USA, and they are allowed vote in the Mexican Presidental election, will we soon begin to see political commercials from canidates running for President of Mexico? Commercials on MSM (ABC/CBS/NBC). Frankly it wouldn’t shock me, and MSM would spin it as something great for our country. But most wouldn’t understand the commercials, they’ll be in spanish. Stand by…this E-Ticket ride aint finished yet.

SparkyFD on May 27, 2006 at 11:25 AM

Can someone tell me why Senator Kyle allows a spanish version of his website? Why is that necessary?

ProudPatriot on May 27, 2006 at 8:46 PM

Posted by Pat
“Bush started this. He will be remembered as the worst President since Carter”

To Pat:
Cater only gave away the Panama Canal.

Posted by Janna
“Remember when the Imperial Supreme Senate (in their infinite wisdom) decided that allowing the peons (who elected them) to invest a miniscule portion of OUR OWN social security MONEY would DESTROY the fragile social security system”

to Janna: Right on! Any time we go near that plan they start screaming about the Trust Fund

Posted by Rowane
“I want my Damned Country back”

To Rowane.
Yes! The American way is to voice your opinion at the polls. Scores of illegals already vote, with motor voter requiring little id, and laws making it illegal to ask for id at the polls. They are about to bring in 10 million more.

This is bypasses the Constitution. You can’t fight this at the polls if they move in 10 million. I guess they had to get this bill passed before the next big election cycles.

Even if they have to ‘go to the back of the line’ for amnesty, those folks will be illegally motor-votered in before the next Presidential. After all, it will be ‘their country’ now. Many of the key states were won by just a few thousand votes.

Posted by right ascension
“only one person suggested that this (3/25/etc.) was staged by the Democrats

Who better to stage this event? Who better to profit by turning Red State America against Bush and the Republicans?”

to right ascension

When Bush opened his mouth to make that lying phoney speech, he didn’t need any help to turn me against him. Reading the arrogant insulting White House press briefing that preceded the speech clinched it

Whenever Bush says ‘they’ are good people’ and
‘jobs Americans won’t do’ here is the English translation:

‘Ameristooges too lazy to do these jobs, even to help their families, the bastards!
Luckily just over the border, I mean luckily just inside the border good Mexican people are doing these stinking jobs because they love their families.

These are the kind of citizens we need. Lets reward these good people with everything the stinkin gringos have, so the good people can go forth, and work and vote for a better world without limits, or borders, or a middle class’

Question: why did this Immigration Bills suddenly become so important, after all the years of BUsh’s Presidency? We already have immigration laws. What is wrong with those laws? I haven’t heard a clear reason why the old laws were no good. They rammed this one through as if the public had been clamoring for it!

entagor on May 28, 2006 at 1:28 AM

Reading the Senate Bill on the Thomas web site I found this –

” (D) A State may not require an individual to include the individual’s citizenship status on a driver’s license. ”

THat will guarantee that illegals who want to vote illegally will not be identified as such at the polls.

Start here at s.2611
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN02611:

go to ‘text of legislation’

entagor on May 28, 2006 at 8:28 AM

Only thing that can save America right now is military dictatorship. We need a Caesar.

Federali on May 28, 2006 at 5:34 PM

The reaseon we are in this fix is that we have followed the advice of ‘evangelical tories’ like “right ascension”. What he forgets is that the RNC puts money into the primaries to get their RINO incumbents re-elected. What happened to Pat Toomey in PA versus Arlen Specter is a case in point. The RNC opposition to CA Proposition 187 is another.

Sorry, “right ascension”, I’m not paralyzed by fear of Satan (aka the Dems). I do not look to the King (aka GWB) for salvation. It is time to TAKE our country back, in the spirit of those who founded this great nation, and those fallen who we remember today.

The faux guilt trip you offer (we should have voted differently in the primaries) doesn’t fly. There’s plenty more that we can do. Stand aside, “right ascension” and let us do it.

dman on May 29, 2006 at 8:30 AM

Please remember the senators who voted NO on this bill,
But remember not all of them vote no for the reason your thinking.
Hutchison was on tv and out of her mouth came amnesty but her kind.(millions in five years to twenty years)..NO TO Amnesty Please email or call the congress even if they don’t belong in your district, because that’s what i’ve been doing.
I Don’t Care if they hate that i’m doing it anyways….
I’ve voted for her and I feel betray because she will be in that meeting between the House and the Senate…
Stand up everyone please support the build a fence…Minuteman Civil Defense Corps..See you all there

alyce on May 29, 2006 at 11:21 PM

Federali, a military dictatorship might be among the desparate options if we fail to take the country back through the electoral process. If we play it smart, ignore the ‘nervous Nellies’, and vote effectively, that ‘doomsday’ scenario can be avoided.

The goal is to save the Republic, not the Republic-ans. It’s regrettable that some good conservatives, among the Senate Republicans who voted ‘no’ on this bill, might lose office. As true patriots, however, they can accept this if it is for the greater good. We’re out of ‘safe’ options.

Spank the Senate, hold the House.

dman on May 30, 2006 at 9:18 AM

Support MCDC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop the invaders from the south.
Stand up against those that protest in OUR streets for rights they don’t deserve.
Peacefully or through force we will prevail.

Kramer on May 30, 2006 at 10:42 AM

Hey, what don’t you people understand? The Senate version is NOT AMNESTY! To become a citizen the Senate bill requires that most illegals would have to jump through hoops, which include leaving the country and reentering at one of only “ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR land ports of entry, TWELVE airports and TWO seaports” currently approved to conduct such activities.

So, unless more ports of entry should come on-line at locations such as Social Security Administration Offices, State Department of Motor Vehicle Locations, Post Offices and local libraries to assist these undocumented workers and their families, the hardship that going to a port of entry will impose will keep most from applying.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/editorial/editorial_0685.xml

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on May 30, 2006 at 11:16 AM

hey dread pirate-
what dont you get, the illegals do not want to be citizen’s
and why should they, they get
.free medical
.free food stamps
.free education
.pay no tax’s but will get to collect social security
anyway.
.already vote in our elections

its not hard to figure out,it all comes down to power: those who have it-and those who want it!!!

mike hale on May 30, 2006 at 5:50 PM

.. and we haven’t even listed what’s MISSING in the Senate bill, such as:

‘Anchor baby’ reform
ID required at the polls
consequences for illegals and businesses that don’t comply
etc.,etc.,etc.

dman on May 30, 2006 at 7:29 PM

mike,
I agree, sheesh, it would be economically beneficial to many US citizens to hop the border and hop it back up here using all the fake documents illegals do.

Plus, the burden is on the lawbreakers to suddenly obey the law and turn themselves in or leave the country to re-apply. Call me cynical but I just don’t see it happening.

NTWR on May 30, 2006 at 7:36 PM

mike hale, my attempt at illuminating the stupidity of the proposal and how the Senate, by saying that these criminals would have to go to a “port of entry” to apply for citizenship, was making it sound like they put some teeth into the bill when they hadn’t done a thing, was apparently lost on you.

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on May 31, 2006 at 9:31 AM

More voter dissatisfaction! Wake up GOP!

http://www.knxv.com/news/morenews/index.asp?did=27225

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on May 31, 2006 at 11:53 AM

Dread Pirate, I missed the point too. Thought you were suffering from RINO-itis. Sorry.

What gets me is the blarney that people with such and such ‘good time’ get squatter’s rights while people with one day less, are supposed to leave on the honor system.

The fine print of the bill basically says that any persons not caught standing on the border-line holding a Mexican flag can be paroled into the United States if they pay the fine and are not a national security risk.

It’s the honor system extended to cheaters. The INS is only required to chase them with a certified letter. Well, probably first class. If the address is bogus the parolee will not be punished, unless we find him again, let him loose again and the parolee gives a bogus address a second time.

Then he gets a fine and/or jail. Heartless.

Meanwhile, my local largest American retailer is swamped 24/7 except on boycott days with people who barely speak English and must point at the products they need, usually work shoes and coveralls, kids clothes, and baby supplies.

The majority of them is carrying a handled basket, or pushing a stroller containing a tiny tiny baby. Seems to be a status symbol.

dman, you said it well:

“The goal is to save the Republic, not the Republic-ans”

If the Republican party is going to give away the Republic, it has no value for me. Individual Republicans are worth saving. These heros are the only boundary line left in our country.

Another good one:
“Remember the Alamo”

entagor on May 31, 2006 at 12:03 PM

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