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Hoot is bombing at the boxoffice. I think Al Gore’s eco-religionist political commericial posing as a movie will bomb too.
BelchSpeak on May 23, 2006 at 10:47 AM
It is so evil beyond pale to indotrinate the kids on “revolutionary” behaviors that were adopted by Mao, Lenin, and Che.
Our country’s biggest threat is not from outside, it is the liberalism from inside.
Liberalism, in other words, is to take your freedom away by any means and let the big government determines what’s good for you. “Kidnapping” is symbolic that, in essence, it tells the kids it is OK to take people’s freedom away if the mass doesn’t conform to their belief. Mao was very good at it.
These revolutionary kooks first will justify their terrorism by using environmental protection as a cause. Global warming, for example, is very convenient. Then slowly they will lead the cause into blaming the big bad government for everything. Then they will tell their followers to seize power, first from within the law, then outside of the law. Then we shall have a armed revolution in our backyard. Did Black Panther try that before?
easy87us on May 23, 2006 at 10:50 AM
The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.
– Abraham Lincoln
This applies to more than the school room. Can you say ‘Hoot’?
Wade on May 23, 2006 at 10:55 AM
Aweful. Disgraceful. Hope it bombs.
MT on May 23, 2006 at 10:56 AM
First of all, anyone else shocked to hear Michelle say ‘F the cops!’ I know she was making a point but I almost fell out of my chair. :)
What is amusing about this, is remember the swiftboat vets playing John Kerry’s tv testimony back in 71? He and his leftist ilk were so worried about the message sent by kids watching John Wayne shoot bad guys; yet, here we have a bunch of eco thugs just coming out and saying ‘hey kids, go burn down a construction site if it offends the Eastern Turd Warbler.’ I guess messages are ok as long as they are of the correct political persuasion. Perhaps if John Wayne had shot real estate developers, John Kerry wouldn’t have been so down him.
And who the heck was that 12 year old valley boy they interviewed? His cadences in answering the question were so annoying I wanted to scream. He sounded just like Laura Ingraham’s impersonation of a metrosexual; and he was just a kid! Think of how he’s going to sound in 5 years! argh.
austinnelly on May 23, 2006 at 11:03 AM
Thanks for bringing this to the front. These eco-terrorists have done extreme damage for years.
From the RMN..
“The four people specifically charged with burning down Vail’s Two Elk Lodge and seven other buildings in a torching that brought $12 million in losses were Chelsea Dawn Gerlach, 29; Stanislas Gregory Meyerhoff, 28; Josephine Sunshine Overaker, 31; and Rebecca Jeanette Rubin, 33.”
NONE of these jerks were even from COLORADO.
There are more of these terrorists, many more. Between these people and “love torn” government people (Forest Service worker Terry Lynn Barton set fire that burned 138,000 acres, 100+ homes) arson is destroying Colorado.
Maybe HOOT or another movie should be about these damn self serving A-holes that burn everything in sight.
They do so much more damage, but movie-makers really dont care.
SHOOTER- A COLORADO NATIVE
shooter on May 23, 2006 at 11:09 AM
Hmmm… sooo… its OK to break the rules in a “Good Cause”…. interesting…
Lets see… thousands a day are victimized by illegal immigrant violent criminals… guess we can start to break the laws about that good cause… and guess what… we got the guns…
REALLY don’t think they want to go there.
Romeo13 on May 23, 2006 at 11:17 AM
Lighten up, Michelle, Hoot was only a movie ( one of many showing kids in rebellion against authority and apparently one that will soon be forgotten…). Like many a film before this rebellion is shown in the extreme….otherwise viewers would fall asleep. It’s only Hollywood.
As for the eco-arsonists, they weren’t kids and they didn’t get that way simply from watching movies. Their problem is deeper and at some point in their youth they needed a mind-enema. Sadly it’s too late now.
Majnun on May 23, 2006 at 11:30 AM
Majnun, “Bowling for Columbine” and “Fahrenhype 911″ were “only movies”, too, yet they collectively rallied and bamboozled more liberal SHEEP into line than anything in recent memory.
“It’s only Hollywood”???! Yes, it is… the same people who gave us noble, self indulgent dim lights like Streisand, Sheen and Penn. Nice folks who put themselves on a pedastle for us all to admire, worship and revere, right? Afterall, they are somehow SPECIAL and ELITE when compared to us peon constituents, eh?
Where would we be if you hadn’t just enlightened us as to the waste of time Michelle put forth bringing this to the forefront of attention. Apathy and ignorance rules… *PUKE*
horsepower_1st on May 23, 2006 at 11:57 AM
Majnun, you miss the point that ideas have consequences. Also, until about 10 years ago, movies showed that those who committed evil acts were caught and punished; ie. justice prevailed. Now those who do evil or break laws are lionized and escape punishment.
The moviemakers are exorting the young to do whatever they want if they think it’s for a good cause. Eventually our whole society, not just half as is the case now, will think that if “I think it’s good, it’s good and who are you to tell me different?” That’s the recipe for anarchy.
Margaret McC on May 23, 2006 at 11:57 AM
I must disagree with Majnun.
If our “entertainment” has reached a point where it must be “extreme” in order to prevent viewers from falling asleep maybe the medium of movies has reached it’s peak. Selling misbehavior and sex to kids has been like shooting fish in a barrel, so far. But how will Hollyweird keep the next generation from falling asleep?
If I came across someone trying to poison my child, be it by chemical or by indoctrination, I guarantee there would be no letter writing! I’d “think like an outlaw”, and “break all the rules!” Literally.
Gault on May 23, 2006 at 11:59 AM
What is interesting and what many don’t realize is that the true environmentalists are the gunowners, hunters and fishermen. For the products that they habitually purchase they are assessed taxes and fees (I believe mandated by Law) of which a certain percentage always go toward environmental causes and restoration projects.
When a “would be” environmentalist goes to an outdoors store to buy a Nalgene bottle or sun visor – they contribute nothing or no money to the environment. No, rather they are likely the ones that defecate, literally, on places like Mount Rainier without having an WAG bag to haul out their waste. Their “purchased items” are not targeted by the government to help out with environmental restoration costs.
Btw, the last time I was at Vail (Co. ski resort targeted by Eco Terrorists) I loved it. The bowls are pristine and fast. The depth perception in mid-winter is dangerous. The gulleys within the bowls provide some nice “off-road” skiing and riding (snowboarding).
I purchased an apple and a cookie for $10. The ambiance and fireplaces are price-less. I chalked it up to one of many amazing American experiences.
The Two Elk Restaurant at some 10,000 feet above sea level is wonderful.
I’m not an alarmist, these Eco Terrorist Revolutionaries will gain no ground what so ever.
ar_basin on May 23, 2006 at 12:13 PM
“Hoot” is based on one of the most recent string of “Protect the Florida Wetlands and Wildlife” novels of Carl Hiaasen.
His earlier novels, “Tourist Trade”, “Double Whammy” and “Skin Deep” at least had memorable characters and contained more humor than message. This one, like his earlier Demi Moore ego project, “Striptease” looks even more dumbed down to be marketed to the youth (demographic) audience.
Jack Deth on May 23, 2006 at 12:28 PM
Good Lord I spotted this giant heaping hunk of crap a mile away when I first saw the promo on T.V.
It’s interesting how the News Media industry has been blown wide open in the past 10 years or so with the advent of Fox News and the Internet.
I am seriously praying that something similar happens with the Popular Entertainment industry over the next few dacades. I am so sick of the humanity-hating liberals forcing garbage like this down our throats every time we turn around.
venmax on May 23, 2006 at 12:34 PM
The idea that the end justifies the means will lead to a complete breakdown of society.
If the end justifies the means, the logical end is vigilante justice. When Government/ Law enforcement fails to protect the rights of law abiding citizens there is only one course for citizens to take.
And the only course of action that acts as a deterrent is execution.
Richard Karnes on May 23, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Can we PLEASE arrest these wackos as ‘unlawful combatants’ and ship their libtard butts off to Gitmo? Please???
RobertHuntingdon on May 23, 2006 at 12:38 PM
I too have to disagree with Manjun.
Seriously folks: how many kids from the ’60s and ’70s to this day won’t use a spray can because they’re afraid of damaging the ozone layer? Nevermind that spray cans don’t use CFC propellants anymore. The idea (spray can bad!) was planted in them as kids, and they’re passing it along down the generations.
Now who’s up for a “Hoot”/”V for Vendetta” double feature at the drive-in?
saint kansas on May 23, 2006 at 12:59 PM
Put Eco terrorists in chains, force them to cut down trees by hand for some logging company till their debt to whoever’s property they destroyed is paid in full?
Of course, lawlessness begins at the top, the Senate capitulating to lawbreakers is a perfect example for kids right now.
NRA4Freedom on May 23, 2006 at 1:01 PM
Great, great Vent today. After watching, I headed over to Rottentomatoes.com to see what “mainstream” reviewers were saying about the film. It’s getting bad reviews, but only because it’s preachy and stupid, not because of its pro-anarchy, pro-lawlessness message.
However, I was pleased to see that Richard Roeper, one of the more widely viewed and read critics on the scene, called the movie out on TV with Roger Ebert. Roeper said, “It would be a nice little family film if not for the fact that the young heroes commit felonies in the name of saving the environment.”
It’s bad enough sending this message wrapped in a movie to anyone, much less to this movie’s impressionable pre-teen target audience.
World B. Free on May 23, 2006 at 1:07 PM
Oh yeah… how many of today’s adults had their environmental views shaped by watching Dr. Seuss’s “The Lorax” on TV? Again, nevermind that, in reality, the evil capitalist would have had the sense to replant the trees if only to stay in business and make more money.
Like someone mentioned in another talkbalk, if it hits the young or others as “emotional truth,” they’re sold. All land management by humans is bad.
P.P.S. You’re all invited over for a double feature of “Twelve Monkeys” and “28 Days Later,” perhaps the only two films in which the ecoterrorists aren’t the good guys.
saint kansas on May 23, 2006 at 1:07 PM
Michelle: Your a lady, and another great vent. Don’t you every have a bad day?
birdman on May 23, 2006 at 1:18 PM
Majnun: Horsepower is right on. A 19 year old college girl once told me, that she had just seen the Oliver Stone movie JFK; she stated “I didn’t know that JFK was killed becacse he want’ed to end the Vietnam war”. I was speehless.
birdman on May 23, 2006 at 1:28 PM
This is nothing new or unique. In 1975 Edward Abbey published his novel “The Monkey Wrench Gang” which became the bible for Earth First, Greenpeace and many other eco-organizations and fellow travelers and he became their icon. He was the 20th century’s Thoreau. He never advocated violence against people. The book is widely read, yet that movie was never made while this one featuring children was. Go figure.
Crude One on May 23, 2006 at 1:33 PM
Ha. Ha. Ha.
Who thought this movie was a good idea?
ZRyan on May 23, 2006 at 2:08 PM
Question: Which is worse. Pro-lifers bombing abortion clinics in the name of saving babies or Enviro-nuts burning down a cabin in the name of saving the environment?
Both sides of the spectrum use the “means to justify the ends” tactic. Not just liberals.
And yes, I love the environment (and babies too). Not because I am a liberal. Not because I think it’s cool and chic. I just don’t want to asphyxiate when I get older. Hoot looks pretty lame. I don’t care what anyone says…good parenting trumps crappy movies with dangerous messages.
TheThink on May 23, 2006 at 2:15 PM
Question: Which is worse. Pro-lifers bombing abortion clinics in the name of saving babies or Enviro-nuts burning down a cabin in the name of saving the environment?
Um, does the cabin have babies in it?
saint kansas on May 23, 2006 at 2:32 PM
“Good parenting trumps crappy movies with dangerous messages”; Thethink. Thats the only point your right on.
birdman on May 23, 2006 at 2:34 PM
saint kansas: I would pretend that you are a horrible person for asking but I just cracked up. Thanks for ruining the gravity of my question! Ha.
TheThink on May 23, 2006 at 2:39 PM
In case the sarcasm didn’t quite translate… the answer is, “They’re both wrong.” I’d even wager that no one one this board has committed either crime.
Please check back in when Hollywood releases a kids’ movie excusing abortion clinic bombings.
saint kansas on May 23, 2006 at 2:40 PM
The good news is that Hollywood knows better than anyone how to run itself into the ground. Juts like Bill Gates’ liberal leanings, Hollywood’s decisions on which movies to make always seem to contradict sound business sense. Hollywood would rather make a piece of crap propaganda flick so that they can pat themselves on the back at one of their awards shows than cater to what the moviegoing public actually wants to see. So give them time and as new movie companies and distributers start to enter the picture they will either be forced to die slow box office deaths or start putting out movies that people want to see.
2wylde on May 23, 2006 at 2:48 PM
Great vent as always. How about one on the millions of avoidable deaths caused by environmentalists through the banning of DDT? Burning down buildings is bad, but causing more deaths than Hitler by banning the best malaria mosquito killer on the planet is far worse.
Orcaswa on May 23, 2006 at 2:58 PM
Nice VENT – great insight!
THIS “MOVIE” IS REALLY AN INDOCTRINATION FILM MEANT TO BRAINWASH KIDS.
NICE TRY LIBERALS – but WE SEE THROUGH YOU!
Glad to hear it’s bombing… proves that everybody’s on to their stupid tricks……
Richard Davis on May 23, 2006 at 3:51 PM
Listen, you guys are all smart people, and usually make really good points. But I am sorry to say that the real issue has gone completely over all of your heads. The important issue has nothing to do with HOOT the movie, or what Majnun said or didn’t say.
We are dealing with the issue of Environmental Protection, and what is acceptable behavior in its defense. We should pay a lot more attention to this issue. I have it on good authority that the government of Mexico, which is run by our good friend Vicente Fox, has an absolutely horrific record on environmental protection. There is a big story down there that needs to be exposed.
I suggest that Ms. Malkin cover the ecological crisis that is occurring on the beaches of Cancun. Now from what I understand, the temperature on the beaches is approximately 85 degrees right now, so I am assuming that some sort of swim wear would be, errr, well, that is to say….ummmm,…. bikini or one piece swim suit….uhhhh,….you know, when in Rome or Cancun, do as the Cancunians…..
I think I’m getting my self into trouble here…
Look, all I’m saying is there is a crisis on those beaches and we shouldn’t let this story get away from us!!!
(If you all decide not to post this, I will understand)
EFG on May 23, 2006 at 4:37 PM
EFG – don’t give up your day job to become a comedian.
Scaldis Noel on May 23, 2006 at 4:42 PM
I was listening to NPR on Friday and they were talking to one of the heads of the Army core of Engineers from the 70′s. This guy was the lead on the New Orleans project. Plan A was to build a flood gate system at the South Canel to prevent the damage that a Katrina style Hurricane would do.
Some envirementalist whack job fought the project. He said that a flood gate that would only close during a hurricane would kill the lake and make it into a stagnate pond. He wrote a protest song which he happily sang a few bars to the interviewer. He continued to tie up the project for 8 years. Finaly, the core gave up and went with plan B… the levies which gave way during Katrina.
The whack job would not take any responsibilty for his part in the Katrina disaster. He blames the Core of course. He says they “should have had a better plan” but they did, and he fought hard with scare tactics to destroy it. Remiind sme of Vietnam. Fonda and freinds were so happy that they “stopped the war” but they could not be bothered with what happened next. Mainly the death of over a million Vietnamese and Cambodians during the “cleansing” phase of the vietcong.
Wyrd on May 23, 2006 at 4:48 PM
Humm… I wonder if ALF will see this as a recruiting film.
Lc Scott on May 23, 2006 at 5:02 PM
How about one on the millions of avoidable deaths caused by environmentalists through the banning of DDT?
Proper water management and simple waste treatment would eliminate most of the mosquitos that carry malaria in Africa. Don’t blame the lack of DDT. Blame inept and corrupt governments from teaching their citizens how to avoid malaria.
Gary Troupe on May 23, 2006 at 5:05 PM
Is there any way to protest the “G” rating?
Based upon the premise that the movie shows illegal activities being rewarded (by success and decriminalizing of the felonies committed in the “cause”) the movie is inappropriate for children too young to recognize the differende between fantasy and reality.
Jhn1 on May 23, 2006 at 5:10 PM
My apologies if I stirred someone’s feathers….
If you think movies are capable of brainwashing children then we better upgrade our parenting. As for Fahrenheit 911 and other garbage that Moore cranks out…they are nothing but commercial products designed to ( excuse my paraphrasing Voltaire ) make money ” from the rich and the ignorant “. Michelle used her rant of Hoot as a lead-in to the braindead eco-terrorist activities. I’m simply stating that Hollywood fare does not have the influence some of you believe, otherwise we would all be Left of Center.
Majnun on May 23, 2006 at 5:21 PM
The first commandment of liberalism “the ends justify the means” and there is little or no restrictions put on the means. What else remains to be said?
docdave on May 23, 2006 at 5:22 PM
“EFG – don’t give up your day job to become a comedian.”
Yeah, that probably is for the best…
EFG on May 23, 2006 at 5:37 PM
“Proper water management and simple waste treatment would eliminate most of the mosquitos that carry malaria in Africa. Don’t blame the lack of DDT. Blame inept and corrupt governments from teaching their citizens how to avoid malaria.”
In many tropical regions, standing water in swamps and other low-lying areas provide ideal breeding grounds for mosquitoes. The prohibitive cost, technical unfeasibility, and environmental damage which would be caused by eliminating all such breeding grounds make your suggestion completely unrealistic. That said, corrupt governments in third world countries are the primary cause of the economic misery which afflicts them.
Orcaswa on May 23, 2006 at 7:13 PM
I have found that when having a conversation with an environmentalist, it is important to remember that their dedication to environmentalist ideologies is identical to a religious devotee’s dedication to a theological belief system.
Like all successful religious movements, environmentalism is based on the premise that without sacrifice, there can be no redemption.
Rational religions call for the laying down of worldly and temporary desires and possessions at the altar of sacrifice in exchange for heavenly and eternal reward.
Irrational religions require that adherents sacrifice the lives and livelihoods of non-believers.
It is alarming, yet not surprising, to see that dictators, environmentalists, islamists, etc. all worship at the same altar.
ztep86 on May 23, 2006 at 7:15 PM
If environmentalists all believe in Darwinism, why should we humans have to protect the environment??
The environment should evolve, right? And if not, I guess it is not the “fittest” environment there could be!
Also, DDT being banned was a dark day for our civilization. Read “The Skeptical Environmentalist” to get a less brainwashed approach to the science behind the ideology that has become environMENTALism. And always remember: scientists are not environMENTALists. Environmentalists are political hacks who use filtered junk science to tie the hands of the greatest economy in the world.
NTWR on May 23, 2006 at 8:03 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Michelle. Good pareants won’t let their kids see this idiotic movie.
RepJ on May 23, 2006 at 8:22 PM
RepJ: Good parents shouldn’t need to ban their children from seeing this movie or others like it. If they’ve raised their kids well, they will be able to think for themselves and should be allowed to make their own logical conclusions.
Tom Shakely on May 23, 2006 at 10:13 PM
I certainly do get your point and respect it as well as your intellect. My feathers just flared momentarily… ;-)
But I cannot agree that because we are not ALL influenced and tilted “left of center” via the raw sewage these ‘icons’ pour forth continuously, that that somehow indicates these disingenuous ‘products’ don’t have MASSIVE and DISTURBING INFLUENCE. They fuel the opposing side and each mindlessly attacks the very common sense, decency, morals and ethics that we individually labor day and night to impart to our children.
You are absolutely correct that REAL parenting skills are the best and only ammunition to counter their threats. (You can thank decades of liberal incrementalism for making that a less popular sport!)
And I also think it an outstanding point that if those serious parental efforts are practiced daily and without interuption, that our children will grow to be young adults that can discern the differences and accurately see through the liberal cellophane (bullseye Tom Shakely!).
I ask you, what is more frustrating or challenging than attempting to have a factually/historically based debate or conversation with someone who has willingly submitted to years of this Hollywood mind poison? They leave the victim with the classic liberal position that all can roundaboutly be justified and that there really is no right or wrong… just perpetual shades of grey.
I must thank everyone here for the enjoyable, stimulating mind exercise that each of you contribute. Thank GOD we are not apathetic!
Have a wonderful day…
horsepower_1st on May 24, 2006 at 9:28 AM
“If environmentalists all believe in Darwinism, whyshould we humans have to protect the environment??
The environment should evolve, right? And if not, I guess it is not the “fittest” environment there could be!”
“Environmentalists are political hacks who use filtered junk science to tie the hands of the greatest economy in the world.”
NTWR, nice satire… I have the same thoughts…
Evolution works the same with people… I actually love to tie the hands of the greatest economy in the world… it ensures that tons of poor people reliant on employers die off, slowly./Sarc/Satire
But we all know this is true. Here in Maryland the I-270 corridor is called the “I-270 Technology Corridor” in hopes to draw in business. What a disgrace – I can’t believe I live here. I hope businesses continue to stay away from I-270 – don’t enter a “High Tax Zone”.
Arlington, Virginia, on the other hand, they know how this world works.
ar_basin on May 24, 2006 at 1:02 PM
Orcaswa – most third world countries drain the swamps when they build their cities, where most malaria victims live. The mosquitoes breed in standing water found in open-air latrines, waste, and debris (such as tires), not in natural swamps. The cities also lack the mosquito’s natural predators, which only exacerbates the problem.
Simple upgrades in basic sanitation practices will eliminate much of the mosquito breeding grounds found in the high-population areas in Africa.
As for those in the small villages near the remaining jungle/swamps, natural predators help keep the mosquitos at bay.
Gary Troupe on May 25, 2006 at 10:16 AM
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