Bush speech open thread: Hoy blogamos, mañana no votamos
posted at 10:34 am on May 15, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Update: Our affiliate, Bryan of Sanctuary, sends along this snapshot of “quality time”:

We’re ten hours away, but such is the anticipation that we thought we’d open a thread now. It’ll be updated throughout the day. If you’re not in front of a TV at 8 p.m., you can watch live over the web at the White House site or at C-SPAN. We’ll have video afterwards, of course.
The president had better pull a rabbit out of the hat tonight because no one’s buying his line on this issue anymore. Michelle has a serious case of Bush depression syndrome this morning; symptoms include a new Vent and this link extravaganza. PoliPundit’s disgusted, John Hawkins is dismissing the troops-on-the-border ploy as a “gimmick,” and Hugh Hewitt, of all people, is talking schism. Captain Ed soothes the savage beasts by noting that our best chance for real reform lies in the idiocy of open-borders advocates, which, thankfully, is plentiful.
Geraghty, ever the realist, answers angry conservatives who are threatening to stay home with the law of unintended consequences: in a word, RINO-plasty. Personally, I wouldn’t mind that with respect to some domestic issues. But this sure ain’t one of them.
Finally, Gateway Pundit beats me to the punch on a Bush drinking game. He forgot a few, though.
“Guests”/”guest workers” — one shot.
“Comprehensive immigration reform” — chug.
“My friend, Vicente Fox” — two shots.
“Mi amigo, Vicente Fox” — three shots.
If he overenunciates a Latino name — four shots.
If at any point he starts speaking Spanish — finish the six-pack.
Play along at home. I figure I’ll be unconscious by around ten after eight, so if there are no evening posts tonight, don’t wonder why.
Update: Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, says this might be the GOP’s last chance. And here’s an old report from CIS explaining how amnesty — duh — encourages illegal immigration.
Update: Forgot one for the drinking game: if he says illegals will have to “go to the end of the line” — drink. Kaus explains why.
Update: The big M will be on O’Reilly tonight to deliver her verdict. We’ll have video of that too.
Update: The Times of London puts it bluntly, and accurately. They neglect to mention that it’s not working. Moran, meanwhile, chooses to light a candle rather than curse the darkness by offering advice to Bush.
Geraghty’s piece at TKS, which I linked above, is starting to draw reaction from righty bloggers. Hewitt agrees with Jim, as does MacRanger, who cites this post as an example of Republican “whining”. Ace started out on the opposite side, writing, “The Republicans are going to lose in November, and I can’t say I’ll be tearing my hair out about it,” but he’s coming around to Geraghty’s position, too.
It’s a genuine dilemma, and all the more so as it relates to immigration. The Republican House is our best friend here; they’re the only ones holding the line against Bush and the Senate. Sitting out the election would mean not only punishing an ally, but possibly removing the last institutional obstacle to amnesty. And as Geraghty points out, it’s a lot harder to re-install a Republican majority once the Democrats are the incumbents.
On the other hand, if you spin Jim’s reasoning out to its logical conclusion, we should all be out at the polls, year after year, happily rubber-stamping the GOP no matter how bad they get provided that they remain somewhere to the right of Nancy Pelosi. Here’s my question back to him: what if we all turn out in November, the GOP keeps both houses, and then proceeds to drift further leftward still, with the result in ‘08 being a forty-seat swing in the House instead of fifteen or sixteen? How does that sound? How about President Rodham-Clinton on top of it, to ride herd?
Bill Quick has more.
Update: Powerline cites a Heritage Foundation study of the Hagel-Martinez proposal that would in theory allow 100 million people to enter the country over the next twenty years. Hot Air affiliate Ian Schwartz has video of Karl Rove telling the faithful we’ll be “just fine” in November.
Update: Corner mini-roundup. K-Lo fears the worst. Derbyshire expects gassy platitudes. Krikorian says Bush missed his Sistah Souljah moment.
Update: The Truth Laid Bear is keeping a running tally of those live-blogging tonight’s speech. Already RSVP’d: LaShawn Barber, James Joyner, John Hawkins, and Jay Stephenson.
Update: Powerline has excerpts of the speech. Scott Johnson doesn’t sound happy. Neither does Michelle. I’m going to tally up the number of drinks I’ll be having just based on these snippets.
Update: Using Gateway Pundit’s drinking-game rules and my addendum, I count one swig of Dos Equis, one chug, two tequila shots, and one hit from the beer bong.
Update: You’ve got to be kidding. Teddy’s worried that the House bill might “criminalize” … illegal immigrants.
Update: “Comprehensive immigration reform.” Drink!
Update: Captain Ed has seen the full speech and has the high points and low points here.
Update: 6,000 National Guard members for one year until the Border Patrol can be increased. No law enforcement powers.
Update: Glenn has the full speech.
Update: A temporary worker program — which calls for them to eventually return home. Is he kidding?
Update: There’s a “rational middle ground” between an automatic path to citizenship and mass deportation who have deep roots here. We’re going to send illegals … to the back of the line. Arrrrrgghh — see the Kaus link up top.
He’s talking about the melting pot now. In fairness, he did admit earlier that catch and release is a joke.
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Si, yo puedo! Without “real” border and immigration enforcement, I’ll have a tee-time scheduled rather than time in the voting booth.
That’s right! Golf, a job most Americans won’t do.
MCPO Airdale on May 15, 2006 at 10:48 AM
I’m half in the bag just thinking about it. Bartender, a round of Chaser for the house!
Pablo on May 15, 2006 at 10:48 AM
“pull a rabbit out of the hat”
At this point, he needs to be pulling something out, but it’s NOT a rabbit, and it’s NOT in a hat.
E L Frederick on May 15, 2006 at 10:56 AM
Hurry up and build the fence………
A thousand or so just came across in the time it took me to log in.
Kramer on May 15, 2006 at 11:03 AM
Bush has definately givin’ us, his supporters, the shaft on this one and he better come through tonight or he’s gonna get fed to the KOS Kooks.
chicagoray on May 15, 2006 at 11:10 AM
You really have to wonder about the timing of all these immigration protests and why Bush I, Clinton, nor any other predecessors did anything to help us out today.
Nathan Bradfield on May 15, 2006 at 11:16 AM
What will Bush’s new slogan be? “I was against amnesty before I was for it?”
I’m waiting until tonight to hear his speech and if I hear one word about a path to citizenship through a guest worker program, my “W the President” sticker comes off.
moonsbreath on May 15, 2006 at 11:17 AM
I hope my passport means I will have dual citizenship with Mexico. Wow. Free burritos.
clyde on May 15, 2006 at 11:18 AM
May the force be with him and
his arrow fly swift and true.
Kramer on May 15, 2006 at 11:21 AM
Well I pray for the best; but will most likely wind up having to deal with the worst. I’m reserving judgement until I hear the speech tonight; however, if I had to bet I would bet on: “comprehensive guest worker program”. Sad, sad, sad.
Cary on May 15, 2006 at 11:25 AM
Will GWB detain the illegals and send them back? Will he punish the employers? Will he stop the cash flow from illegals back to Mexico? Will he cut off government services to illegals? Will he require ID for the next election?
If not, it’s all BS.
What to do in November? Protest the Pres by spanking the Senate, but hold on to the House.
dman on May 15, 2006 at 11:26 AM
$10 says he sells us down the Rio Grande.
p0s3r on May 15, 2006 at 11:28 AM
I want to take my new registration to HotAir! as an opportunity to burnish my WingNut credentials and trot out my first big public policy proposal:
As a long term solution to a host of problems, and in keeping with the great tradition of American inclusiveness, I hereby propose that we invade and take over Mexico. (Stay with me on this!)
Part II: we move Israel to Mexico. Talk about win-win. We can pay for the whole deal with the savings we will realize from withdrawing from the UN. Heh.
Israel will be a hell of a lot cheaper to defend from Guadalajara, and the climate is comparable, right? The whiner activists already say we “invaded Mexico to steal California and Tejas”; they can’t whine any more than they already do.
Venezuela is within sniper range from Chiapas, and we’ll have Cuba absolutely surrounded; we take that over the instand El Jefe dies.
They have lots of oil. We are already defending Mexico and employing half their citizens. We’ll save $5 billion on the wall — Mexico already has one in Guatemala! Great resorts, which we already own. Billions in savings for the American companies who have all shifted manufacturing south of the border.
I do not see a downside here!
Jaibones on May 15, 2006 at 11:31 AM
Like my Dad used to tell me: Actions speak louder than words. Tonight will be all words, followed by very very little action. How dumb does this idiot think we are? George Bush is a liar. I don’t trust him. Tancredo ‘08
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 11:34 AM
He sold us out years ago.
All hail Emperor George and Chancelor Vincente.
Sad but true.
Better start brushing up on my Spanish.
Tengo el gato en los pantalones
Kramer on May 15, 2006 at 11:40 AM
What we need to see here is that we hold the power. Remember Harriet Myers? This begs to be used the way the process was intended by the founding fathers. Bush has no fear of being voted out of office. Denny Hastert could start impeachment proceedings and we could legally exercise our rights to remove a public official that we are unhappy with. Imagine the repercussions, Dick Cheney would become president…we would be in a good position to win whoever we put up as candidate in ‘08…remember what happened when Bush 41 had voters go to Ross Perot? We got 8 years of Bill “Stains” Clinton. We should be energising conservatives with the warning of Santayana, “those who cannot remember the past are condemed to repeat it”. Want 8 years of President Hillary?
tormod on May 15, 2006 at 11:45 AM
That’s right … stay home. Don’t vote. Watch the Dems take over … and then bitch about it. You’ll only have yourselves to blame. Sticking your head in the sand is no answer.
bleeding_right on May 15, 2006 at 11:46 AM
“Remember the Alamo”
Kramer on May 15, 2006 at 11:46 AM
The President can say whatever he wants and it won’t matter–if the Senate will do the right thing and line up with the House.
Call your Senators and tell them to kick the Hagel-Martinez bill out!
KarenS on May 15, 2006 at 11:48 AM
Bleeding right — I’d rather see a bunch of Republican incumbents (particularly in the Senate) fall and get replaced with Dems than let the Republicans continue to take their conservative voting base for granted. Many of the Republican Senators need to be reminded that big business may provide lots of campaign cash, but it is the conservative grassroots that ultimately provides the key votes.
The real problem the Republicans might face is if the Democrats wise up and move to the right of Republicans on this issue. I think it is a real possibility and one which could hand the Democrats a surprising lease on life. I also happen to think that the Republicans in the Senate are just stupid enough to give the Dems that opportunity.
MrSpkr on May 15, 2006 at 11:59 AM
Is it Time to abandon the "Vichy Republicans"?
bdfaith on May 15, 2006 at 11:59 AM
All I can say is that if we get the “virtual fence” hooey, and the drinking game gives me a hangover, I’m going to be signing myself up with the Constitution party by this time tomorrow.
I’m in Popeye the Sailor Man mode, and “I’s had all I can stand, ’cause I can’t stands no more.!
They are fixing to kiss this lifelong Republican goodbye, except I’m not planning to wait around to be kissed. And I’m taking my money and my vote with me when I leave.
jefferson101 on May 15, 2006 at 12:00 PM
¡Ninguna amnistía! También, la lengua de mi familia es en segundo lugar español.
I will not be fooled again. I’m also the closest thing my large, Southwestern, mostly Republican, family has for a “patriarch”; which makes me a sort of direct “opinion leader” for roughly seventy five votes and through them, more. If we get screwed again tonight, I am going to be a very loud voice for sitting out a couple of elections until my party gets the word. The President is not the only one who can play the caudillismo game.
So, I’ll say it again. No amnesty! ¡Ninguna amnistía!
Senescent Wasp on May 15, 2006 at 12:04 PM
I think you need to break out the vodka for the “jobs Americans won’t do line.”
BTW, what happens when all those illegals become citizens, will they start refusing to do “those jobs” like good Americans?
Clark1 on May 15, 2006 at 12:09 PM
We’re so sorry Uncle Bush
We’re so sorry that we stayed at home and didn’t vote
We’re so sorry Uncle Bush
But the illegals and RoP crap finally got to us.
Sad attempt to put my feelings to a Beatles song. Kudos to anyone who can make it work.
This combined with the Religion of Peace crap mantra he spews and the vast amounts of money spent on the wrong things while cutting our military’s programs has me looking to a third party.
PierreLegrand on May 15, 2006 at 12:11 PM
Jefferson101 – They are also planning on kissing this ex-democrat (12-year republican) goodbye too. Question is…. where to go?
Writing my Senators (I’m from the Peoples Republic of Washington) would be a waste of ink….
CrazyFool on May 15, 2006 at 12:12 PM
“Jobs Americans won’t do” is one of the most insulting lines I have ever been given by a politician.
Cary on May 15, 2006 at 12:14 PM
That’s right … stay home. Don’t vote. Watch the Dems take over … and then bitch about it. You’ll only have yourselves to blame. Sticking your head in the sand is no answer.
bleeding_right on May 15, 2006 at 11:46 AM
So, let republicans in congress spit on us, piss on us and crap all over us but, we need to still vote for them because we may lose our majorities? No thanks! The only way to punish these morons is sit it out or vote 3rd party. If they get a clue and change their ways then fine, they’ll get my vote. If not, I survived 8 years of the first Clinton, I can survive 8 more of the 2nd.
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 12:17 PM
So Pres Fox (wonder how he got that name?) calls the Big W and what does he want??? He wants us to continue to overlook our laws, while he enforces Mexico’s, very inhumanely. Dont send the lowest class workers back to him, he doesnt want them, plus he (mexico)cant afford all that medical care. He only wants the $50 BILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS a year the Illegal Immigrants send back to Mexico, from money they steal from America doing jobs Americans wont do? B.S.
F%@k the people, just send me the money, is just about what he said on the phone.
But we are the meanies they re-write National anthems about.
shooter on May 15, 2006 at 12:20 PM
I better hear something like, “A fine of $10,000 per illegal employee, plus $ for $ for every cent paid to any illegal employee.”
rls on May 15, 2006 at 12:24 PM
As a long time, past supporter of bush, please don’t let Jeb (Bush Prez III) run. Open borders from Cuba wouldn’t allow us to build a fence.
Bob67 on May 15, 2006 at 12:27 PM
BDS (Bush Depression Syndrome), not The Bird Flu is the new pandemic. More and more of Bush’s conservative base is sinking into a morass of anger, sadness, disappointment and revulsion. It all stems from being ignored. The GOP is the law & order party. There is no respect for the rule of law when you openly praise people who cross our borders with impunity. I bet that the ‘troops at the border’ idea is nothing but fluff and is this administrations’ current dog & pony show in a failed p/r stunt to placate an incensed majority of Americans. This is Harriet Myers – all over again!
Bush has jumped the shark.
ruestmichel on May 15, 2006 at 12:29 PM
“Update: Forgot one for the drinking game: if he says illegals will have to “go to the end of the line” — drink. Kaus explains why.”
The line they should be worried about is the line the legal immigrants will be in to get a refund. If all those here illegally get in for free then they should give the legal immigrants a refund.
cmc on May 15, 2006 at 12:33 PM
The Presiden’t touted speech and plan will become merely another diversionary tactic.
We can station thousands of troops at the border but without meaningful enforcement (operative word is ‘meaningful’), which thus far has not been implemented, we will get merely additional lip service. Enforcement first — then talk about a plan. But no amnesty!
And most impotantly, those already here illegally go to the back — not the front of the line.
ForYourEdification on May 15, 2006 at 12:34 PM
Pulling a rabbit out of a hat will be what’s needed. If a sloppy bill passes, Republicans are out. Period. And maybe that’s what it will take to shake them up and not take voters for granted.
KC on May 15, 2006 at 12:37 PM
Plain and simple. Bush took an oath to enforce the laws of our country. He refuses to do so. Dems are missing a golden impeachment opportunity, one that would stick. Too bad they’re even more clueless than republicans.
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 12:37 PM
I’m very nervous about a 3rd party candidate using this issue to do what Perot did…and that’s giving us a Clinton in the WH…
canvas on May 15, 2006 at 12:40 PM
I’ve recently called my Senators Lautenberg & Menendez. They’re proponents of “security” and “amnesty” so as not to break up families.
I posed the question as to whether they would support wording in the immigration bill to specifically state that only children born to LEGAL immigrants would be eligible for natural-born citizenship.
I have to call Senator Lautenberg’s office back, as Joel said he would ask the Senator and have an answer for me later in the week.
Senator Menendez’ office was less the helpful. Maybe because his staff is new or something, but I didn’t get any kind of real answer.
We should all remember that “natural-born” citizenship is a result of a Supreme Court case regarding the 14th amendment. Congress has the power to specifically develop legislation to address this issue, but will they?
Ted
oceanguy on May 15, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Why not make Presidente Fox president of the USA and be done with it.
Just think-corruption would be above-board, and protesters would be jailed or shot. Part of me likes it.
Burritos six nights a week might get old, though.
clyde on May 15, 2006 at 12:54 PM
I am curious as to whether he is bringing any demmies over to his cause while he is alienating the grass root Republicans
CAGOP on May 15, 2006 at 12:55 PM
And I DO love Mexican food…
CAGOP on May 15, 2006 at 12:55 PM
Just remember, we still control the House, and they do truly represent us. As long as we hold the line, no bill will get past them. After the capitulation tonight, fax or call your house representatives and let them know they still enjoy our support as long as there never ever will be any guest worker program. It just is simply wrong to create a whole under-class of psuedo Americans.
paulsur on May 15, 2006 at 12:56 PM
“That’s right … stay home. Don’t vote. Watch the Dems take over … and then bitch about it. You’ll only have yourselves to blame. Sticking your head in the sand is no answer. ”
So what’s YOUR solution, “bleeding_right”? Just fall in line? Wring our hands? Surrender to the superior wisdom of the illuminata? WHAT???
To borrow from WWII General McAuliffe: “NUTS!”
dman on May 15, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Democrats don’t get it… Republicans in power no longer seem to care…
The problem here folks is the two party system which has legaly entrenched itself through the campaign laws. They have a Monopoly on power in this country and until there is a viable third alternative all your ranting, and raving, and staying home from the polls will do no good.
With a good election giving us a 60% voter turnout… the winner only has to have 31% of the voters to win… now… stay with me here…. by definition 1/2 of the human population is of below average intelligence… sooooo…if you can convince the 1/3 STUPIDEST people to support you, your in power.
We need another alternative here folks… the stupid have taken over our country.
Romeo13 on May 15, 2006 at 1:04 PM
Jailbones,
I toyed with the “Baja” strategy (turning it into ‘New Israel’) 20 years ago. It seemed outright lunacy at the time, but is much less so now. :-) We need a counter-offensive to MEChA.
dman on May 15, 2006 at 1:07 PM
We should all remember that “natural-born” citizenship is a result of a Supreme Court case regarding the 14th amendment. Congress has the power to specifically develop legislation to address this issue, but will they?
oceanguy on May 15, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Good point! I think it was a case in the 1800’s involving the son of Chinese immigrants. He left the country, but then was refused re-entry. This case needs to be revisitd as quickly as possible.
In Denver, anchor babies are choking our school system and sucking dry hospitals and state welfare plans.
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 1:09 PM
I’m going to run with the thought that the Illegal Immigrants are so dangerous and destructive, we need the guard on the border. We must protect our citizens and the Border Patrol with military force. Its that bad down there.
Bring up the terror and criminal aspect of this whole thing, it is in fact the truth.
Be properly armed with the facts.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
shooter on May 15, 2006 at 1:16 PM
Hail To The King!
Presidente Jorge Booosh has apolgized for all of us. We offended King Fox, and we must REPENT! Remember, our Constitution requires our King to confer with Mexico’s King before we make policy. Shame on all of us for being rude and obnoxious. Feelings were hurt south of the border, I hope all of us are now happy! The nerve we have to try and enforce our laws.
Viva our beloved King Jorge Booosh, El Presidente De Ustados Unidos De Mexico
SparkyFD on May 15, 2006 at 1:18 PM
msplitt:
What I said already. I’m not about to stay home and not vote. I’ll take my vote, my campaign contributions, and my effort to the Constitution Party.
As long as the RINO’s think that we don’t have any alternative other than to either vote for them or settle for Hillary, they’ll continue to pander to whoever they think will give them more money. And apparently the donations from the users of cheap labor mean more to them than my vote does.
I’m not leaving the Republican Party. They’ve left me. They pander to illegals, spend like drunken Democrats, stomp all over the First Amendment (McCain-Finegold), won’t protect our borders, harass law abiding citizens at the airports so as not to offend terrorists, and are more concerned about offending Vincente Fox than they are about offending me.
So be it. Hillary can’t hardly screw things up any worse than they are now, if it comes to that. (Faster maybe, but worse?)
jefferson101 on May 15, 2006 at 1:19 PM
shooter on May 15, 2006 at 1:16 PM
Shooter, I agree with you, and more. It’s nothing short of criminal on Bush’s part. He knows even more than you and I about the effects of his open border policy, but fights at every turn to continue it.
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 1:20 PM
I can only think he’s being bribed or blackmailed. What else can explain his behavior, his contempt for the American people, his willingness to leave our border open to terrorists, and as shooter said above, his willingness to allow this: http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 1:24 PM
I hope Bush isn’t stupid enough to try to sell this “Path to Citizenship” to the American people. The saddest part is that we don’t need any new laws or reforms,what we need is a President with backbone who will strictly enforce our current laws and punish those who break them. I will not vote for or support any candidate who wishes to pander to criminals.
Scorched_Earth on May 15, 2006 at 1:28 PM
msplit,
He’s a globalist, plain and simple.
dman on May 15, 2006 at 1:30 PM
I favor a guest worker program for 1-2 million farm workers and other workers in food processing such as meat slaughter. Other than that send ‘em all packing. Build a fence. Start enforcing workplace provisions. Start enforcing document fraud and we have plenty of laws on that one
We do need these Mexican/and others to do farm work. We want to keep produce and meat packing in the good old USA. Make costs prohibitive for farmers and we will start getting meats and vegetables from abroad. I like to keep food production here. But other sectors such as hotels, restaurants, construction will have to learn to live without their illegal workforce. The party is over. We likly have too many hotels and restaurants as it is. All those cheap Chinese buffets and Taco places are cheap due the illegals they hire. Mexicans and Chinese will hire their own kind whop are illegal and pay them a pittance
dennisw on May 15, 2006 at 1:32 PM
I can only think he’s being bribed or blackmailed.
I said that to my husband recently. It’s as if he has his thumb in a vise; his weakness on major issues (Harriet Meiers, McCain-Feingold, Religion of Peace, the ports) has me shaking my head. Someone or something has him paralyzed. Either that or his WASPy upbringing is reasserting itself. We thought we were getting Barbara Bush’s child, instead we got his father’s.
Margaret McC on May 15, 2006 at 1:38 PM
Let’s face it folks, the immigration fiasco didn’t start on Bush’s watch. The politicos let it happen because the American people fell asleep. WE run the country, it’s time WE stepped up to the plate and took control via the ballot box. The recent events in Herndon (sp?) VA are proof of that. The politicos won’t listen until we make ‘em. The sorry state of affairs in this country are the direct result of the apathy displayed by the majority of Americans over the years.
The actions of Bush are in line with his stated views. He hasn’t lied to anyone, he’s always been pro-illegal immigrant, pro-amnesty, pro guest-worker program. Look at what he’s said about immigration during the last two presidential elections. If you want to see who’s really to blame for the way things are look in the mirror. How many of us have just let things slide till now without speaking up to our elected representatives? The Constitution says “We The People”, not “We The Politicians”. But WE have to get off the dime on a regular basis and do the work!
Solzhenitsyn once remarked that a country gets the leaders it deserves. I think he hit the bullseye on that one. God help us all.
SSvet on May 15, 2006 at 1:39 PM
Simply staying home is not the answer as a protest to republican stupidity. If your congressman is on the wrong side of the issues, work hard and vote in the primary to oust them (even if they win, they may get the message). If that does not work, vote third party or even (gasp!) dem if they are not too far out of bounds. One or two voting cycles will clear out most of the terminally tone-deaf or flacid RINOs.
The country has been moving steadily to the right for 20 years. A good house cleaning is in order after 12 years, and maybe a good thing.
One caveat however, if the republicans manage to get this hagel(spit)-martinez amnesty law passed, well then they have just handed the dems 12-30 million new voters. All bets are off.
johnCV on May 15, 2006 at 1:41 PM
Yo! We have to put a Republican in the White House just in case of a opening in the SCOTUS. Unseat all incumbant Senators that voted for amnesty. That will definitely get attention.
Personally I’m voting Democrat in the Ohio Senatorial race and Libertarian in the Govenors race. But still Republican in the Presidential race
“Permanent interests, not permanent parties”
Theworldisnotenough on May 15, 2006 at 1:43 PM
This is a hoax. “Virtual Feance’? Why, so we can watch them cross? I can see that on Fox News. How about mandatory civil fines for employers for every SSN that is false.
pat on May 15, 2006 at 1:49 PM
As a two term governor of Texas GW knows more about this issue than he lets on. He has the worlds ear tonight and he has I’m afraid the last chance of a lifetime to ensure his legacy. I really kills me that all you hear by the MSM is how we have concerned president Fox of Mexico, give me a break.
flyboy777 on May 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM
I can only think he’s being bribed or blackmailed.
I just said that to my husband recently. I thought we were getting Barbara Bush’s son, but we seemed to have Bush 41’s son. Whether it is the failure of the Leftists in the media to give him credit where it was due or fatigue, but he has lost his will to turn the country around, if he ever had it.
I expected that Bush would have had the DOJ begin indicting the Clintons for their violations of the Constitution and our laws; instead he honors them whenever possible. That is bizarre and suggests that he is afraid of something.
Margaret McC on May 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM
No sympathy for those illegals with so-called LEGAL children.
It’s pathetic that some pregnant illegal can come across the border, give birth, and then expect me to pay taxes for the medical costs.
Something must be done.
It’s either all or none.
Give them the BOOT.
Kramer on May 15, 2006 at 1:57 PM
I would love to know what Fox has on Bush?
Is he is half brother from another mother?!
I mean what?!
We are being held hostage, Fox is blackmailing us…
Argh, give me a double shot of Hennesey barkeep!
justpiper on May 15, 2006 at 2:01 PM
Margaret McC on May 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM
How about indicting the traitors at the NY Times, the Wash Post, along with Joe Wilson. Apparently Treason has become an accepatable form of “protected” speech in this country. I have no doubt FDR would have shut down the Times and had its owners and editors charged, convicted and hung had this happened during WWII
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 2:01 PM
I fully believe this to be the beginning of the end for W and for many who currently occupy the Congress. No matter how one may “spin” and what nebulous collection of words they may try to use to frame their real intentions, it is what it is – wrong for my America.
Lo Siento Vicente, America still belongs to us…
SteveD on May 15, 2006 at 2:02 PM
I expected that Bush would have had the DOJ begin indicting the Clintons for their violations of the Constitution and our laws; instead he honors them whenever possible. That is bizarre and suggests that he is afraid of something.
Margaret McC on May 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM
You would think so, especially after the way he talked bad about the Clinton’s ever since Bill defeated his Dad back in the ‘92 election. However, this should come as no surprise since we all knew before the last election his weak stance on immigration. I voted for him 2X though, I guess I’m just hoping that he will see the light but I will not be suprised if he does not.
Scorched_Earth on May 15, 2006 at 2:02 PM
Bush is going on TV tonight to address an issue where I believe he has made one of his biggest mistakes — illegal immigration. I can’t say yet whether he will correct that mistake, or amplify it.
It’s impossible to credibly claim security from terrorism when our southern border remains porous and thousands who we can’t identify cross it daily.
It’s hard to maintain the rule of law when we knowingly allow tens of millions to violate it daily.
It’s difficult to maintain the character of our society when we accept tens of millions who, first, have no intention of becoming full members of it and, then, demand we conform it to meet their wishes.
If Bush does not support a formidable, secure barrier across our entire southern frontier, any use of the National Guard will be viewed as a sham and a fraud — nothing other than window dressing and hollow pandering. It will infuriate conservatives, not placate them.
Immigration must be limited to those who want to become Americans in every way and are willing to obey all our laws, not just the ones they find convenient. Our policies should be designed to favor those with skills, capital, and entrepreneurial spirit. It should allow significant numbers of immigrants, but favor those that will provide the greatest benefit to our nation’s economy and society. It should not reward those whose principal motivation is to receive more generous social welfare benefits than are now available in their home nations.
The current policies of rewarding those who come illegally and allowing them to bring family members who consume large amounts of government services are just plain stupid. Watching elected Democrats and Republicans try to outdo each other in pandering to create and attract large numbers of potential new voters is sickening.
Elected officials of both parties are not only turning their backs upon, but spitting in the faces, of their base constituencies. They are beneath contempt, and we should give them what they so richly deserve.
dez on May 15, 2006 at 2:07 PM
It isn’t enough simply to stay home. We must cut off all money to the RNC and open borders fanatics and work through the primaries and general elections to defeat those who won’t secure our borders.
As for Bush, he needs either to resign or enforce the law. If he does neither, Rep. Tancredo needs to draw up an article of impeachment tomorrow.
godhelpUSA on May 15, 2006 at 2:11 PM
This is a stunt to give Congress an excuse to compromise with the Bush/Senate version “comprehensive” immigration package that includes a guest worker amnesty.
Sending troops to the border with no orders or authority to apprehend, detain, and deport, is a waste of taxpayer money.
If there is a sellout, the voters will remember come the midterm election, and in ‘08.
Fix the border, and NO “guest worker” amnesty for illegals. Deport them. Period.
Kilo Echo 4 on May 15, 2006 at 2:11 PM
Had our forefathers followed the mentality of the sheep peddling fear of any action this November, we’d still be a colony.
The Boston tea party WORKED.
It’s time for Bush to listen to US, not the other way around. We will NOT get back in line. We will not be swayed by your fear-mongering.
To GWB and his drone supporters: you were wrong about Harriet Miers, you were wrong about the Dubai port deal, and you’re wrong about this. Three strikes – you’re OUT!
dman on May 15, 2006 at 2:22 PM
Sorry, I live in Illinois and there is no way I can bring myself to sitting this one out. I can not in good conscience give Senator Dick Turbin a pass for his treasonous activities of late. He may still win, but it won’t be because I sat this one out…
bspoogeferd on May 15, 2006 at 2:22 PM
What do you expect with a name like, “DICK”.
Kramer on May 15, 2006 at 2:36 PM
With all due apologies to Ronald Reagan for mangling his words:
“I didn’t leave the Republican Party;
The Republican Party left me.”
This will be my response to those who warn of the consequences of “staying home” in November.
While I am opposed to power returning to the Democrats, who are increasingly catering to the Dean/Sheehan wing of their party, I am also opposed to the current batch of so-called Republicans remaining in power.
From borders to energy policy to social security reform to letting Schiavo die, the Republicans have demonstrated they are no longer MY party. Only under the reign of Comrade Hilary and a Democrat-controlled House and Senate will the Republicans learn to again respect and fight for what their constituents believe.
Dave Shay on May 15, 2006 at 2:37 PM
What would our Founding Fathers done with Bush? I seriously believe they would have hung him.
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 2:43 PM
I used to love him, now I don’t.
GWB has betrayed us for his Daddy’s NEW WORLD ORDER!!
I hope and pray that all in Washington who choose to be politicians rather than patriots get fired. Amnesty and illegal pandering will crush our childrens’ futures. “Guest Workers’” children will resent us in future generations. They will not tolerate being second class citizens. They will rebel and we will have war on our hands.
Please don’t stay home on Election Day. At least vote 3rd Party where the bums can see where the vote went. The Constitution Party is singing our song and asking us to dance. Give them a whirl and send a message to the Washington RINOs.
robman27 on May 15, 2006 at 2:53 PM
msplitt – LOL, Have you even read American history?
Brian on May 15, 2006 at 2:54 PM
Tried to watch the Senate hearings on “Immigration Law Reform” (have any of yet to them figure out yet what ever happened to “Immigration Law Enforcement”?), but after about three or four minutes of Harry Reid’s horse sh** I shut down the ‘ol tube in disgust. I’m half afraid to watch ‘El Presidente’s’ speech tonight. Who knows what kind of damage I might inflict on the TV before all is said and done? But I am looking forward to the drinking AFTER the speech.
Badco on May 15, 2006 at 2:55 PM
Brian
Yep, and lot’s of it.
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 2:56 PM
It took over 60 million Americans voting Republican to keep Kerry out of office. No matter what is said in blog comments, millions upon millions of those will either stay home in disgust or switch votes given the course of the Republicans in Congress and the Administration.
Crapping on your base is a poor way to get them to the polls.
Clark1 on May 15, 2006 at 2:56 PM
I’ve got a question.
If all these folks have to cross the borders to flee economic chaos then why are they waving Mexican flags and demanding the SouthWest be ‘returned’ based on Spanish claims dating back centuries.
Should we redraw the border to allow the SouthWest to be destroyed by the same misguided governmental policies that they are fleeing?
Would not that eventually lead to these same activists simply crossing the new border?
Here’s an idea. If you cross a border seeking a better life a good start would be to realize it was ‘better’ before you got here and without you.
“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country” — John F. Kennedy
So spend some time thinking about the contributions you can make… or just go home.
Voters don’t like Amnesty…
Voters don’t like lawbreakers making demands…
Which is exactly why the (D)emocrats want to import new voters.
(D)emocrats want Illegals to provide the votes Americans Won’t!
DANEgerus on May 15, 2006 at 2:56 PM
I agree with poster tormod. The removal from office option should be considered and would be supported by both sides of the aisle – albeit for different reasons. Nothing personal about it, the people just require a different kind of leader and midterm that is a constitutional way to make it happen. We should thank him for his service and bring in some new more responsive leaders.
MRegine on May 15, 2006 at 3:04 PM
Everytime I read comments about if the GOP (or Republican individuals) don’t do this or that, I will no longer support any of them, I wonder what/who they will support instead. Or maybe they mean they will give up and not vote/support anyone or anything.
While all of us don’t agree with what Republican Congress or the Bush administration has done or not done, it seems to me the alternative would be a lot worse. If we therefore fail to continue to support (and I don’t mean without expressing our interests) we are in danger of a much less desirable outcome due to apathy.
We cannot withdraw and then say “See I told you so.” I believe if you stop being active, you also give up the right to complain!
The Borders need to be fixed. The illegals need to be sent home. And we need to support those who will serve us best.
RDS on May 15, 2006 at 3:05 PM
I think we are all under the assumption that George Bush actually cares about the Republican party and conservative ideals.
Let’s take another approach. What if he’s had it with conservatives and his goal is to sink the Republican party and conservative movement for decads to come? Could that explain his “inexplicable” behavior?
msplitt on May 15, 2006 at 3:06 PM
Preview of Monday night’s speech? El Presidente orates in “Our First Mexican President.” (In English.) Illustrated.
gringoman on May 15, 2006 at 3:08 PM
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