The final hours of the London bombers
posted at 8:28 pm on May 11, 2006 by Allahpundit
It’s almost always a bad idea to link something before you’ve read it, but I’m going to take a chance. Tomorrow’s British papers are out and they’re packed with details about the July 7th bombing thanks to two reports issued today by the British government.
I’ll update later with highlights, but have at it if you can’t wait:
- A minute-by-minute narrative from the Independent.
- Key findings (with links to PDF versions of the government reports) and a bullet-point narrative from the BBC.
- Unanswered questions, missed clues, and a lengthy narrative with biographical details about the bombers from the Times of London.
- How much it costs to kill 52 people from the Daily Telegraph.
The Telegraph article says one of the bombers was heavily influenced by a jihadi preacher named Abdallah al-Faisal; a quick Google search turns up this page. Just a matter of time, wasn’t it?
The Independent has a related story out tonight about a friend of the bombers who’s sure they had help planning the attack and believes that the “mastermind” is still out there. “[S]omeone knows something and people are very reluctant to come forward to the police.”
Update: This jumps right out of the Independent’s narrative: “The Home Office says someone with previous experience of bomb-making probably helped the group, although details could have been obtained from the internet.”
Update: Still from the Independent:
They leave two nail bombs in the front of [their car], along with explosives and equipment that could be used to make several devices. In [the other car], Lindsay leaves a 9mm handgun.
There had been speculation that the bombs were for a mystery “fifth bomber”, but counter-terrorism officers have found no evidence to support this. They believe the weapons were for “self-defence or diversion” in case the police stopped them.
They needed weapons for self-defense above and beyond the giant bombs they were carrying in their backpacks? And what good would the bomb-making equipment do them if they were pulled over by the cops? Were they going to assemble the bombs while the cop was walking up to the driver’s window?
You start to see why their friend thinks someone else was involved in the plot.
Update: From the BBC’s key findings: “The group ‘was in contact with others involved in extremism in the UK’. But there is no intelligence to indicate that there was a fifth or further bombers.” And: “Claims that a ‘mastermind’ left the UK the day before the attacks ‘reflect one strand of an investigation that was subsequently discounted by the intelligence and security agencies’.”
Update: Given what’s been going on at Finsbury Park for years, this is especially disturbing:
Across the whole counter-terrorism community the development of a home-grown threat and radicalisation of British citizens were “not fully understood or applied to strategic thinking”.
They’re fully understood now: “Three terrorist plots in the UK have been thwarted by the intelligence and security agencies since July 2005.”
Update: The BBC’s bullet-point narrative is useful. Note the emphasis on how religious all four of them became in the years before the bombing. And yet, there’s no indication that they followed any of the pre-attack religious rituals undertaken by the 9/11 hijackers. It might have to do with their youth, but this reads less like jihad than an Islamist Columbine.
Update: The first of the Times of London’s unanswered questions has to do with the bombs left behind in the car. “[W]hy have the keys for the blue Nissan Micra never been found?”
ToL is also dubious about the government’s claim that there was no mastermind:
In June 2005, Khan and Tanweer went on a whitewater rafting trip in North Wales. Witnesses report that there was a burly man in the party who spoke only Urdu and appeared to hold sway. Khan took orders from him. The authorities have not traced this man.
And also about the fact that the boys were able to build such effective bombs on their own:
Magdy al-Nashar, an Egyptian biochemist who lived in Leeds and had links with members of the bomb cell, has never returned from Cairo since going there last summer. British police would like to speak to him.
Update: It gives you a sense of the scope of the problem to learn that two of the bombers returned from a terrorist training camp in 2003 — and weren’t tracked, because MI5 had even more dangerous people to follow. From ToL’s missed-clues piece:
“Intelligence at the time suggested that their focus was training and insurgency operations in Pakistan and schemes to defraud financial institutions. As such, there was no reason to divert resources away from other higher priorities, which included investigations into attack planning against the UK,” the report said.
But what about that bit from the BBC’s key findings about how poorly understood the terrorist threat was at the time? Or does this prove it?
Update: Also from the missed-clues piece, more on the alleged mastermind:
“Between April and July 2005, the group was in contact with an individual or individuals in Pakistan. It is not known who this was or the content of the contacts but the methods used, designed to make it difficult to identify the individual, make the contacts look suspicious.”
Update: ToL’s narrative reveals that the ringleader, Mohammed Siddique Khan, modelled himself on a British Muslim jihadi killed by the U.S. at Tora Bora in 2001. Hasib Hussain walked around school with a religious ed textbook on which he had written “al-Qaeda no limits.” And here’s a nice detail:
In the months before the bombings Khan, Tanweer and Hussain were increasingly seen spending time together around the mosques, Islamic bookshops and Muslim gyms — one was known as “the al-Qaeda gym” — and social clubs of the Beeston area.
A discrepancy — the Independent says three of the bombs were detonated at the same time (8:50), but ToL cites the report as saying the second bomb was at 8:56 and the third not until 9:17. The trains were still running 25 minutes after the first explosion?
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To be fair, “attacking” a reservoir is massive undertaking…It’s not exactly like you are putting cyan!de into Aunt Esther’s lemonade. Any adulteration involves a massive volume of chemicals and an equally complex means to mix those chemicals into a fairly substantial volume of water.
JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Obama said today that he does NOT support an Independet Counsel being appointed for ANY of the scandals….
The bottom line is if Holder des not call for an Independent Counsel it will NOT HAPPEN, they will be able to get away with all of it, & there is nothing anyone can do about it.
easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM
:) not yours as in ‘you voted for him’ :), of course not… ‘your preezy’ (and mine too, I suspect, but then I’m in denial :) as in your (and our) collective curse…but only for 2 more years or so…I’m looking fwd to the last two lame duck years of his preezydency…
jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM
I think Jon Stewart needs to add to that skit decrying government incompetence highlighted on the Internet a day or two ago.
This is the stuff government needs to be worrying about. Not people wearing “Don’t Tread on Me” shirts.
WTH is going on in this administration.
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Obama’s administration / term in office so far:
FAILURE & SCANDAL!
easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Brat, great find. Thanks.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 2:10 PM
INCOMPETENCE is the hallmark of this administration. Starting in the Oval Office.
GarandFan on May 16, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Only credible option: crowdsource.
Names, photos, known acquaintences and known addresses.
Time to take your lumps with the rest of them, US Marshalls.
socalcon on May 16, 2013 at 2:12 PM
I hope and pray, most earnestly, that the last years are mired in controversy and scandal….and a painful inability to accomplish much of anything, I prepare for a “good” 2014.
JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Well why not? It’s not like they were planning on praying the rosary in front of a Planned Parenthood Clinic or something terroristy like that.
Lily on May 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Hmmm, scandal has been a feature of many a president’s second term, even if it boiled over from the first.
Maybe a president should only serve one term. That makes for more than enough potential scandal.
hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM
{facepalm}
socalcon on May 16, 2013 at 2:16 PM
I didn’t know about the IG REPORT…(of course, knowing about what the IRS was doing is another story…)
easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:18 PM
hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM
MAYBE we just shouldn’t elect inexperienced Communist-tutored (Frank Marshall Davis) hate-spewing racist Communist-based Black Liberation theology pastor-mentored (Wright), Socialist Ideologist-quoting (Saul Alinsky) Community Organizers as President, especially one who plans to put a scndal-plagued Eric Holder in charge of the DOJ & a tax cheat in charge of the Treasury?! Just saying…
easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Same here…methinks we are getting a preview of how his last two tears in office will look like…good news is that by then his political capital would have been spent and exhausted, so that his lame duck years will be even lamer…all these scandals will take a toll which makes me really optimistic about 2014…
jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM
No we shouldn’t have. But Barry was the perfect stooge at the perfect time for this job. His election was carefully coordinated by a crafty organization and abetted by the LSM. It was certainly an effort he could have never have hoped to coordinate on his own.
A mastermind he is not.
hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 2:30 PM
And don’t they perform daily water test/analysis anyways? you’d think that a basic test would reveal the chemicals that are not supposed to be in there, especially if they are in lethal quantities…it’s not quite the Middle Age with the Borgias or the Medicis poisoning the water wells of their enemies :)…
jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM
Probably placed them in a munitions factory…no one would ever look there…
right2bright on May 16, 2013 at 2:51 PM
government is good for you! let’s make it bigger!!
Sachiko on May 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM
Isn’t keeping track of terrorists racist or something?
We’ll have to wait till they join a tea party. Then they’ll find them for sure.
PattyJ on May 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM
Which name: their original one, or the one they use in the WPP?
Or the false one they are going to use once they get fake documents?
AesopFan on May 16, 2013 at 4:21 PM
It’s all a conspiracy to deny Hillary her turn at the wheel. Dirty Mysogynysts.
abobo on May 16, 2013 at 5:47 PM
The problem is that any highly-public “attack” would close smaller/on-site reservoirs until they could be tested, drained, cleaned, tested again, verified, etc. Then the equipment. Then the distribution system (the comical part is realizing where the water from the flushed lines would go.)
The country re-elected Obama. It’s not a stretch that many or most of them would think one gallon of ________ in a 100 million gallon tank would kill them.
rogerb on May 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM
There are two ways to go after a reservoir.
First is the water, but that hasn’t been treated yet so you are unlikely to do much there.
Second is the dam, which is an earthen dike for the Quabbin Reservoir.
I have a t-shirt around here someplace that says: ‘There is no problem that can’t be solved with the suitable application of high explosives.’
ajacksonian on May 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM
“Man arrested at Boise Bench home on terrorism charges…
BOISE — Federal agents have arrested 30-year-old Fazliddin Kurbanov, who was living at a Boise Bench home, as part of a federal terrorism investigation.
The U.S. Attorney says federal terrorism charges were filed Thursday afternoon in Boise and Salt Lake City, Utah.
Kurbanov is an Uzbekistan national and is legally in the United States.
Kurbanov has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Boise on three counts; one count of conspiracy to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization, one count of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists and one count of possessing an unregistered destructive device.
A federal grand jury in Salt Lake City also returned an indictment charging Kurbanov with one count of distribution of information relating to explosives, destructive devices, and weapons of mass destruction.
Government officials say this arrest was the culmination of an investigation by the FBI’s Salt Lake Division, which covers Idaho and Utah; and Joint Terrorism Task Forces in Idaho and Utah, which include a number of federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies.
Federal agents have been closely monitoring Kurbanov’s activities for any potential threat….
KTVB has learned that Kurbanov has a police record here in Idaho. He was pulled over for traffic violations in three different Idaho counties over the past two years.”
http://www.ktvb.com/news/FBI-conducts-investigation-on-Boise-bench-207753341.html
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Large amounts of ricin can be fairly easily made, radioactive isotopes in even modest amounts can be detected, and botulin is extremely toxic in small amounts. The entire reservoir need not be made highly lethal; detections of toxicity need only be high enough to close down the reservoir for some time and cause fear or even panic. That’s what terror is about.
Of course, these foreign Muslims from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore were trespassing in the middle of the night only for the purposes of making observations of the water supply for their “education and career interests” , and they are not (as the media is making a point of) known to be connected to criminal groups. So nothing to worry about, move along unless you’re a greasy racist Islamophobe.
Chessplayer on May 17, 2013 at 11:21 AM
The picture in the caption is priceless and says it all!
rjoco1 on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Just as Ed used the word “unexpected” for months (years?) regarding the growth in unemployment, perhaps the word “Incompetent” should be used with this administration every time one of these incredible messups occurs. It’s time that the truth be told – either this administration is really into “changing America as we know it” – that is, changing America to a hunting ground against decent Americans or it is incredibly incompetent and the word must be used.
Who else is getting their phone tapped?
MN J on May 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Hello all
can someone tell me what this triple face palm photo is from. I just noticed it reoccurs, anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Observation on May 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM
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