When Open Borders Protesters Attack

posted at 1:16 am on May 6, 2006 by Bryan

Or…the debate that never was. Hot Air stringers Freedomfolks attended an immigration debate–or what was supposed to be a debate–in Chicago on Thursday. The loving, tolerant people who were there on behalf of the millions living in the shadows doing jobs Americans won’t do turn out to have a nasty, intolerant side. Who knew lefties could be so unhinged?

Here’s Freedomfolks’ video report, which you’ll only get here. The MSM was there, but for some reason hasn’t mentioned the scuffle.

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This reminds me of a Protest Warrior incident during the 2004 Republican Convention. A “march” by Moonbats featured one of their idiots trying (and succeeding) to detroy a Protest Warrior’s sign while calling him a Fascist. The Protest Warrior correctly and humorously challenged the fool on the definition of Fascism which was, obviously, beyond the poor tool’s ken – he wandered on looking rather sheepish and stupid.

That they are precisely what they claim to abhor is, simply put, a Bridge Too Far for these useful tools. Rational people would suffer massive Cognitive Dissonance migraines. It would be funny if it wasn’t so dangerous. Our freedoms have allowed and fostered the growth of an element of society that is completely divorced from reality and is quite deranged. They have been scooped up by the bottom-feeders, the socialists and communists and the rest of the “ists”. Now they are just tools being used against the very freedoms that created them.

By far, the greatest threat to America and freedom lies within. I believe a decidedly InCivil War this way comes.

MostlyHarmless on May 6, 2006 at 2:36 AM

Believe it or not, the Chicago area, (city AND suburbs) is the first and ultimate destination of illegal aliens crossing our border from Mexico.

Towns like Waukegan, Illinois are FLOODED with illegals. They have literally taken over the town, churches, schools, businesses. Many of not most, are here illegally.

Like most Americans, I always thought California or Texas was where they went when they got here.

Nooooooooo, they go to northern Illinois, where they are given access to how to get phoney licenses, SSN’s, etc.

As you can see by the video, the Chicago area is a safeplace for illegals.

When we look to find the conspiritors who give harbor and false documents to illegals, we need to ZOOM IN on northern Illinois.

Does anyone know other places in the US where the illegals go to “network” and get false papers?

Richard Davis on May 6, 2006 at 8:06 AM

We stopped going to Yuma, AZ for the winters as it has been taken over by Mexicans. I don’t know if they are illegal or not but they are very rude and think they own the place. Some of the long time residents of Mexican origin are even upset by the recent influx. It is not good!

Scribe35 on May 6, 2006 at 12:57 PM

In 1984, six children were incinerated in their van as their parents and siblings watched because IL government employees sold truckers’ IL CDL drivers licenses to non-English speaking aliens in what was termed the license-for-bribes scandal involving then IL Secretary of State, and now former IL governor (and recently convicted) George Ryan.


It’s more than just a safe haven. Illinois is a political cesspool.

dm60462 on May 6, 2006 at 1:21 PM

[“Our freedoms have allowed and fostered the growth of an element of society that is completely divorced from reality and is quite deranged” MostlyHarmless on May 6, 2006 at 2:36 AM]

MostlyHarmless, yours is a crystal-clear assessment, and absolutely correct. I would add that the 30+ year accelerating decline and whole-hearted failure of our educational system, at virtually every level from the primary grades right through graduate studies, has thoroughly prep’d the stage for the emergence of this trend. In my every-day conversations with some of my co-workers, many in their early 30’s and 40’s, I am constantly struck by their seeming lack of basic knowledge about almost everything! They seem to operate day-to-day with an almost child-like sense of the world and world events. No sense of wholeness or connectivity with history… kind of like having a field of vision and a sense of time limited to the 10 sq feet around you over the past 10 minutes.

And with a straight-face, they voice the most sincere belief in every manner of conspiratorial goings-on which they blame for various impacts upon their lives … oil prices are high not because of supply issues or because of pressures relating to potential threats to supply or because of the manipulation of supply by OPEC (or the motivations for same), but solely because The Oil Companies or The Government (aka “Bush”), or both in cooperation, are out to “rip them off”. Terrorist struck the US not because of their hatred of all that the US has accomplished and has, and of which they have neither, but because “Bush” needed a premise to “go get their oil” so he could get rich and make his cronies rich …”Bush” conspired to make 9/11 happen!

Simplistic thinking! It seems they see and interpret real-world events as though they were watching a soap-opera. This HAS to be indicative of an extreme inability to engage in critical thinking buttressed by a rudimentary understanding of history and world events and their connection to present day circumstances.

OR it’s indicative of fear bread of ignorance. If things are just too complex and beyond your ability to make sense of them, rather than dwell on the darkness you cannot penetrate and all the potentially very scary things lurking in there that you maybe missing, just simplify! Make it something you CAN follow, and might as well make it marginally comfortable as well …yes, it’s terrible that we started a horrible war in Iraq, but at least we are a fault and therefore we can make it better…at least it’s not as bad as if islamofascists world-wide truly hated us and wished us dead, each and every one. Ahhhh …much more comforting …damn that Bush!

Couldn’t say it better than you did, MostlyHarmless: “Our freedoms have allowed and fostered the growth of an element of society that is completely divorced from reality and is quite deranged” …. AND VERY, VERY DANGEROUS!

Headstick on May 6, 2006 at 2:46 PM

I’m a freshman in college and I went to a Pro-Immigration rally in the city of Rochester (NY) just to see what is was like. I didn’t see one counter protester at all, which surprised me.

It would have been a little nerve racking to go ‘against’ these people like that one lady in that video did. It’s pretty messed up how these ‘free lovin’ people can be so biased when someone doesn’t agree with them. Screw mob rule, I would have liked to join her…we can’t be so easily pushed aside and ridiculed when we have the right to do these sorts of things, peacefully of course.

ryan on May 6, 2006 at 3:09 PM

ryan, I agree with you!

It’s reassuring to know that you would join the brave “counter-protestor”. I would too.

Guys like me and you would stand next to her, gain strength in our unity and face down the mob. All it takes is a couple of us to turn a bunch of them around.

Good for you ryan!!

Richard Davis on May 6, 2006 at 4:08 PM

RE: Does anyone know where else in the U.S. they go to network and get false papers.

It is going on in every major city in the country. I had the eye-opening misfortune of representing Claimants in the deposition process (only) of Work Compensation in Southern California. My job (which I had to do and could only tolerate for a short time) was to protect their rights in a deposition.

What I very quickly learned is that the illegal work-force is married to the Work Comp “Racket.” There are Chiropractors and Work Comp Attorneys who have made fortunes by signing up and making a claim for every illegal who loses a job. They funnel cases back and forth and at the nexus is also a false paper/document racket.

Much if not all of the necessary information re illegals such as addresses, false social security numbers, false driver licenses AND whether or not they pay taxes (which they NEVER do) is contained within the Federal Government’s reach, if they would ever chose to use it. The Work Compensation machine has more info already than you could possibly imagine. Part of the work comp claim sytem is getting this information. It is required in every claim.

Just for the record in all of the work comp claims cases that I represented, not one claimed to have paid any prior taxes. Remember that every time you hear advocates claiming that the illegals contribute to society via taxes.

America1st on May 6, 2006 at 4:42 PM

Chicago has more Mexicans living in the city and environs than any other city in the United States besides Los Angeles.
37% of the students in the Chicago Public School system are Mexicans or “Hispanic”. With a $5+ billion-dollar-a-year school budget paid for with property taxes, guess who pays for these Mexican kids to go to school?

It would be nice if the United States gathered ALL the costs of these illegals and totaled them on a bill once a year and sent the bill to el Presidente Fox of Mexico. He could pay us back in free oil.

clyde on May 6, 2006 at 5:07 PM

I agree with MostlyHarmless’ statement. Elected representatives count currency in two ways: Votes and Money. Of course the money is needed to buy the votes. Money to buy votes is much more powerful on the uneducated and uninformed who who have been raised to believe they are victims and that happiness, however they define it, is thier right. Democrats, in thier ethical days, used to be for the “little guys” who didn’t have the money to buy power. But now a large segment of our population is uneducated and indoctrinated and has been hijacked by a segment of very slick people who, to me, appear to be treasonously determined to destroy this country. I can see no purposeful, constructive motive in thier actions. No thread of design, except to sieze power from Republicans. I shudder for the future of my children. I am teaching them to think critically, but also to fight, because I am afraid they will live to see the day we are in hand to hand combat with muslims, mexican gangs, outlaw gangs. A little more collapse in our infrastructure and we will be in anarchy, and someone will have to sieze power by force. I pray that the blogosphere or some other catalyst becomes a source or re-education of our culture before it is too late.

CountryDoc on May 6, 2006 at 5:23 PM

Ryan and Richard would join the counterprotesters in peaceful opposition to this burgeoning riot. Two is good. Two hundred million is better. Part of the problem is that too many citizens have turned over the country to the moonbats, or so it seems. To some extent, it seems that way because the mainlining media is rife with moonbats who agree with the protestors and therefore portray them in the most favorable light possible. This report and the lack of any similar reporting on any national or local broadcast media is a classic example.

There was a time that the news media was filled with patriots who believed in this country and its ideals. They used their platform to strengthen and uphold those principles through reporting of events. View the newsreels and read reports from World War II and before for examples. The rise of liberalism in this country became evident in the coverage of later conflicts and permeates the mass of reporting still.

As the passengers of Flight 93 so aptly portrayed, there is still plenty of steel in the American backbone. The heritage of this country’s founding fathers has not been completely bred out of existence. Unfortunately, the vast majority of goverment indoctrinated educated citizens of the post-WWII era will require a wake-up call on the order of 9.11.01 at least annually before that steel shows up. If the federal government suceeds in fulfilling its only constitutionally mandated responsibility of providing for the common defense, those annual wake-ups won’t arrive.

Those of us who understand the gravity of this situation should do what we can to turn the tide. Get involved. Work to restore our lost freedoms. Elect to public office those with the same values, and work to ensure that occurs. Exercise the freedoms we are guaranteed – use them or lose them. The moonbats are loud, but not strong. We are strong and many, but often unheard. Write your legislators – with polite but cogent positions on issues before them, and follow the legislative process to know what issues come up when.

CountryDoc is exactly on point – teach your children (or your parents, as appropriate) to think critically. That is precisely what the First Amendment is all about. And the Second Amendment is there to ensure the First Amendment is not restricted. Anyone who is not exercising both is contributing to the erosion of freedom we rail against so frequently. What we saw in New Orleans after Katrina was an abomination to freedom that violated Amendments I, II, IV, V, and XIV and served as a wake-up call across the country. It has spawned several bills to ensure weapons confiscation never again occurs during a crisis when they are most desperately needed by law-abiding citizens to protect themselves from society’s mutants. More such legislation is required on the national level to restore the full force and effect of the Second Amendment, removing restrictions on law-abiding citizens to keep and bear whatever effective arms they would choose.

Which brings this rant full circle. Ryan, Richard, and anyone else would have to count on Chicago’s Finest for their protection when their peaceful intent met violent oppostion because the Second Amendment of the US Constitution and Section 22, Article I of the Illinois Bill of Rights have been infringed (to the point of elimination) in Illinois. Gentle readers of that state should take this as a call to action. Deluge your state senators and representatives with letters requesting they study the facts and restore the right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by both constitutions. Several other states and cities also infringe these rights to various extent, making none of us exempt from this call.

And the next time someone tries to take more of your inalienable rights, just say no…

on the Mark... on May 7, 2006 at 6:30 AM

…okay, since that didn’t work…
Just say no…

on the Mark... on May 7, 2006 at 6:36 AM

Very true, on the Mark. I started writing and voicing my opinion to our “leaders” a few years ago out of frustration and disgust. We need to remind them who their base is often, as well as the ideals they’re entrusted with protecting. The “silent majority” needs to find a strong voice, and just voting for a RINO isn’t enough.

Here in Ohio, the MSM is already trashing Ken Blackwell, a strong conservative candidate for Governor. Personally, I believe the liberal MSM is responsible for the elevation of political correctness into the nightmare it is today. The PC trend probably began in the big universities, but the press spead it around the land like a virus. The result is politicians so afraid of being tagged racist, intolerant, mean spirited, etc. they’ve all become the same wimpy, spineless waste.

Thank God for the “alternative media” like MM, Rush, Laura Ingraham and the others who keep us going.

right as rain man on May 7, 2006 at 7:41 AM

Ignorance and hatred have plagued humanity since the beginning. They travel as dual occupancy. In our case our public education system has provided the ignorance and hatred rushes in to fill a vacuum left by the absence of reason. Liberals bottom feed in this environment, mistakenly trying to elevate the condition of the ignorant while only succeeding in creating more of them. Wellfare and illegal immigration being cases in point. Liberal politicians pander for these votes, relying on tribalism to trump reason.

No society in human history ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.

Crude One on May 7, 2006 at 9:20 AM

Well said, all above! Well said!

It seems to me that our educational institutions, from grade school thru graduate studies, have been methodically infiltrated and usurped by liberals, slowly, steadily, for decades. We’re now seeing the very real fruits of that infestation parading vapidly in our streets.

Micro-short attention spans, absolutely no will or perseverence to overcome adversity of any kind… these things I see and hear in almost every young person I’ve met over these past many years. They haven’t been taught to read. They haven’t been taught to reason critically, and they haven’t been taught to look for balance and to seek out more than one source for information. They blindly accept whatever they’re fed without question.

I’m very concerned that subversive liberals have been, and are, very much slowly writing and re-writing our history to support and endorse what I judge to be a very corrupt and disingenuous agenda that only results in them gaining positions of power with the intent to re-distribute wealth.

But that will only result in killing the incentive those of us who actually show the initiative to build their American Dreams, as opposed to those that expect everything to be handed to them with no effort. Socialism and communism are unsustainable economic systems.

Socialist and Communist organizations are openly and outspokenly hijacking the illegal alien movement. Yes, indeed. Write your representatives. Make your voices heard.

This is critically important and, if you really care about America, it’s your duty to do something about it.

Thank God for the blogosphere!

techno_barbarian on May 7, 2006 at 12:28 PM

I was in Las Vegas for a business trip when the local pro-illegal demonstration occurred. I didn’t even realize it was happening until a taxi driver mentioned it. If one of their purposes was to show the impact on our economy, they failed miserably. All day Monday, I noticed no change in the services at any of the places I went. I saw many Hispanic employees working, doing their jobs. I guess all the protestors were there because they had the day off. As our taxi driver pointed out, no one is stupid enough to put an $18 an hour job at risk. Liberty

Liberty Call US on May 7, 2006 at 4:36 PM

Perfect example of the Left’s ‘Free Speech for me! But not for Thee’ mantra. First their ‘debater’ ducks out due to allendged white-supreamist threats (never documented). They they shout down a forum then attack anyone opposing them.

Typical left.

Techno, I agree with you. Had a niece go through the public school system. History? Whats that? Responsibility? Oh that’s for the other-person! Where madonna’s latest hair style is ‘current events’….

CrazyFool on May 7, 2006 at 4:41 PM

Liberty Call, I always thought the protesters were there because they didn’t have to work…. being on welfare / tanif / ‘disability’ / etc…

Everyone else has to work for a living.

CrazyFool on May 7, 2006 at 4:43 PM

Don’t worry – my husband and I are in that 30’s-40’s age bracket you are talking about. with the exception of the plaintiff attornies, most of our cronies are JUST LIKE US. we are knowledgable, current on issues, and are raising our kids with conservative morals and values. i’m not sure who you talk to or hang out with, but most people i know can tell one end of a donkey from another and are able to hold intelligent conversations about politics, economics, etc. I know it’s an uphill battle because of the indoctrination that is going on in our schools, but wise parents can absolutely discredit the liberal agenda that the schools are spoon feeding our kids.
keep the faith, keep the faith. the fight is worth it.

pullingmyhairout on May 7, 2006 at 6:09 PM

I posted this on another thread in response to a suggestion by another Hot Air fan that we hold our own “millions American march” on July 4th.

I’d love to see a million Americans march on July 4th. I greatly doubt it would work. Americans will never defend themselves… ever, and the press would suppress turnout and demonize the few protesters who did find the guts to show anyhow. They would show only the most radical “hate” groups and encourage violent counterprotests, the violence blamed on the marchers. Great idea, but I don’t see it happening. It’s simply not fair that we have a superior culture. To love our country and culture makes you a…(gasp!)…racist.

I have to respectfully disagree with on the Mark when he said:

“As the passengers of Flight 93 so aptly portrayed, there is still plenty of steel in the American backbone”.

Aside from the military, and a few folks like myself who have very, very little to lose, and couldn’t care less what idiotic libs (or anyone else for that matter) think, I see a near-complete absence of guts, much less a steel backbone. I see jelly. Fearful quivering sheep. The reason for this cowardly insouciance appears, to me, quite clear. To be called a racist is more terrible than any other fate conceivable. Murder, torture, child rape, ANYTHING else pales in comparison, and any measure that protects America and our culture is loudly denounced as racism.

It’s sickening.

ecamorg on May 7, 2006 at 8:21 PM

“To be called a racist is more terrible than any other fate conceivable. Murder, torture, child rape, ANYTHING else pales in comparison, and any measure that protects America and our culture is loudly denounced as racism.”

A big “amen!” to that.

It’s gotten to the point the term has gotten so cheapened (like “nazi”) that I don’t, 99% of the time, listen to what the other person says when that is brought up.

I live in a multi-racial neighborhood, in fact, I went and celebrated the graduation of a neighbor who is of another race, at her and her husband’s request.

I have been called that on my blog, and I just LOL. I just look at it as the Lord being my only Judge, and He knows me better than these strangers lurking around on the internet do.

Lady Heather on May 7, 2006 at 11:55 PM

I disagree with the blogger above. If disagreeing with someone of a different colour results in my being called a racist then so be it. I am proud of my culture and my heritage and those that think they hurt my feelings because they call me racist, awww..sorry no, don’t think so.

Funny how those that call others racist belong to the groups that want others least to focus on race??

Great White on May 8, 2006 at 8:43 AM

“But that will only result in killing the incentive those of us who actually show the initiative to build their American Dreams, as opposed to those that expect everything to be handed to them with no effort. Socialism and communism are unsustainable economic systems.” – from technobarbarian.

I agree. I started my medical practice in a rural underserved area with the belief good medical care using modern computerized tools could be brought to this area and and I could still make a good living.

I have worked 60-110 hrs a week for 14 years. My income now is less than it was when I started. Government/private programs for medicaid three times went bankrupt stiffing me for more than 250K. I kept on serving the poor. Insurance companies continue to ratchet down my pay for the same services while increaseing my paperwork burden and randomly (no, methodically and deviously) denying payment at thier whim. Government has increased documentation requirements and performance requirements with regulations that do not help quality. Everyone feels entitled to thier health care, but want to accept no responsibility for being overweight, using drugs, alcohol, smoking, or lack of preventive medicine. When the state cut back on its medicaid insurance eligibility, and we took a grant to keep care for the uninsured, I found myself taking care of a few hardworking people who were really trying to make it — but a lot of “disabled” people who could but don’t want to work and people kicked out of pain clinics now that thier insurance is gone, who are addicted to narcotics and sedatives. Most of the people draining our health care dollars are people with lifestyle induced illnesses brought on by a government system which fosters irresponsibility. These are third and fourth generation people who have no inkling about about what it is to be responsibile.

“I know I’m a father, but I can’t get married because my girlfriend will lose her ADC and child care”

“I need a medical excuse because I missed my “job training” program (due to partying the night before)and I’ll lose my unemployment”

“I need a note to say I should be on homebound (tax funded) education at high school, because I am pregnant”

I’m fast losing my altruistic and entrepreneural incentive.

CountryDoc on May 8, 2006 at 8:50 AM

I posted a blog here, but it didn’t show up .. I may have to repost.

CountryDoc on May 8, 2006 at 8:54 AM

I don’t know if I am the “blogger above”, Great White, but I agree with you 100%.

I won’t be silenced either by anyone who may try to shut me up by calling me a “racist”.

This is why we will not have a legitimate, reasoned, dialogue on race relations for a long time, I think.

And that is too bad.

Lady Heather on May 8, 2006 at 9:46 AM

Illinois is still a cesspool. Current gov. Blago is only interested in re-election and going further into national politics. He was too good to live in the Executive Mansion in the state capitol. His arrogance is just unbelievable. I hope the people of this state wake up before it is too late.
Ex-gov. Geo. Ryan was convicted and he should serve out all of his time. His lawyers are trying to get an appeal or an overturned conviction by pointing fingers at the jury. I think this was planned so they could do just exactly what they are doing. His lawyers felt he would be convicted and this is their way of getting their man off. To think the lawyers work with a former gov. of IL – Jim Thompson. Despicable.
If you did the crime you must do the time. No exceptioins.
Disgusted in IL.

bjb on May 8, 2006 at 9:47 AM

I agree, bjb. Blago is a joke. obama is a pandering phony, and dick turbin is beneath contempt. I spent a good deal of my younger life in Il, and I live near Peoria now. I like the climate, the land, and most of the folks I meet. Despite this, I am seriously considering moving to Missouri or Indiana within the next couple years. The lawmakers in Il. are insane. If aliens came from space and abducted the cities of Chicago, East St Louis, and Springfield’s politicians (spare the Bears, Cubs, and Bulls please!)we might have a decent state again. That line from blago a couple years ago…”we must stop putting our young black men in jail for their crimes” was just unbelievable. Yeah that’s right, you ridiculous idiot. Let the scum run free. Everyone knows that protecting criminals is far more important than the safety of peaceful law abiding citizens. All non-racists agree on this. At the same time, he tripled security for himself and his cronies after 911 at such a cost we had to close and cutback our prisons. Arrogant fool. Why would anyone want to hurt him? He’s a terrorist/criminal’s best friend.

ecamorg on May 8, 2006 at 10:23 AM

Lady Heather, I did not mean to offend you. Your earlier statement sounded as if you were perturbed by people calling you racist. Don’t ever be and I am glad you have emphasized that you are not.

It is time we called a spade a spade. People in general, and White people in particular, these days appear hesistant to say what’s on their minds for fear of being called racists. Bigots come in all colours, seemingly more from the so-called ‘minorities’ these days.

Great White on May 8, 2006 at 10:32 AM

ecamorg – You are so right about all the scumbags here and what do they do but pander to the illegals – all the dems do that just for the votes.
My son-in-law is from Eureka, just outside of Peoria. I am sure you know where it is. THere are more than a few folks there who are conservative and would love nothing more than to see all the dems gone – especially Obama and Turbin ( as Rush calls him).
Hope you don’t more to soon to cast a vote for the good guys.

bjb on May 8, 2006 at 3:16 PM

Once again, we must take back our language before we can take back our country. Orwell warned us about this. Enough of the ‘racist’ crap!

Why is anyone surprised at the tactics of the anti-American activists? We just need to press on and get our beloved country back.

dman on May 8, 2006 at 3:55 PM

Eureka! College home to our beloved Gipper. Been there many times. My sister lives in Metamora. I live in Farmington, about 30 miles west of Peoria. I can’t move for another two years due to contractual obligations, but I’m shopping out of state properties well ahead of time. It’s a shame. I love Illinois, I always come back, but I’m really getting fed up with the laws here.

ecamorg on May 8, 2006 at 4:09 PM

Let’s follow Mexico’s policy on this whole issue and send the whole bunch back since they are illegals that crossed the Southern border, except those who broke Mexico’s law about foreigners partaking in a protest getting tossed into jail.

Since the USA has forgotten its own laws when it comes to illegals sneaking in, we should be fair and enforce their own laws.

Hening on May 8, 2006 at 6:20 PM

Reciprocity would be a very good start.

dman on May 8, 2006 at 7:25 PM

On Cinco de Mayo,many non-English speaking hispanic kids came to school wearing La Raza t-shirts,and t-shirts with the American flag upside down, to say nothing of the Che Guevara garb–the principal did nothing,even though he has made kids change who were wearing shirts with a small confederate flag,or kids with “buckwheat” t-shirts(from the lil rascals)
Everyone just wants to be”nice”.
Well, we will “nice” ourselves out of existence.
To me La Raza is the same as the KKK.

lizzee on May 9, 2006 at 9:50 AM