CIA Leak: The Talking Points Take Shape

posted at 11:24 am on April 24, 2006 by Allahpundit

Got a link round-up coming later about alleged CIA leaker Mary McCarthy for those who missed the blog coverage this weekend. In the meantime, here’s Sunday-morning video of John Kerry, former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers, and NPR correspondent Juan Williams framing the moral calculus in terms of McCarthy’s willingness to suffer the consequences of violating her oath of secrecy.

Except, of course, that she wasn’t willing to suffer the consequences: not only did she request anonymity from the reporters she leaked to, but this article from Saturday’s WaPo notes that she failed more than one polygraph before ‘fessing up. She didn’t fall on her sword; Porter Goss ran her through.

Here’s Byron York at the Corner on Friday providing some added context to the calculus.

As for the clip, you’ll be tempted to stop watching after Kerry. Don’t. Williams is the star of this show, and he’s not on until the final act.

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I’m no lawyer, but can someone shed some light on why we don’t seem to try anyone for treason anymore?

rightallthetime on April 24, 2006 at 11:26 AM

That’s the right question.

I am sick of these lefties claim such courage for these skulking, treasonous individuals. These people do not have the courage of their convictions; perhaps they should be convicted of the crimes they commit.

proletarius on April 24, 2006 at 11:35 AM

According to Juan, all she was doing was trying to overthrow the administration. I guess the left can’t win elections, they’ll take power anyway they can get it, and that’s ok with them. Good Grief!

pappy on April 24, 2006 at 11:42 AM

To the liberal multiculturalist, nationalism is a dirty word. Nationalism hints to xenophobia. Xenophobia hints to self-righteous protectionism. Protectionism hints to superiority of America and liberal multiculturalists won’t tolerate that lying down.

The biggest nation a liberal multiculturalist recognizes is the individual. So when it comes to national security secrets, they feel no shame in disclosing unfair secrets to the rest of the disenfranchised world. Any person of any nation with any motive should know everything about American advantage, no matter what. Where the conservative sees national security secrets, the liberal multiculturalist sees unfair advantage against the underprivileged individuals of the world. Self guilt and self hate from being American compulse them to show and tell even if showing and telling is a national crime. How can a liberal multiculturalist commit a national crime if they don’t recognize nations?

bucktowndusty on April 24, 2006 at 11:47 AM

Kerry mentions leaking for a lie. What lie is he talking about? How he won his purple hearts?

Wade on April 24, 2006 at 11:49 AM

I too wonder why the left get away with so much they spin the truth,leak classifed information to hurt our country in was time, they should be tired for treason NOW!

Roberta Molnar on April 24, 2006 at 11:57 AM

Andy McCarthy’s short preview on the tenor of part of the CIA (against administration policy and action) is a good read. You might include it or any similar in your link round-up.

cboldt on April 24, 2006 at 11:59 AM

You are right, I had to clamp down on my gag reflex and my habit of yawning everytime John Kerry deigns to talk to us simple folk…I wanted to stop after that so bad. Hey..wait…can I sue Kerry for torture? Hmmmm..might be something there. Anyway, Jaun Williams was hilarious! That was worth sitting through a torturous Kerryesque monologue.

xanadu1015 on April 24, 2006 at 12:09 PM

Where is the Department of Justice when you need them? I wrote off the Gonzales DOJ after the Sandy Berger wrist slap.

kilowiz on April 24, 2006 at 12:17 PM

Could you imagine Kerry as president..while I’ve not been thrilled with Bush, I think we dodged a bullet back in ’04. I caught Kerry’s laughable appearance on Sunday…please someone tell me why he even gets this platform? How is his opinion relevant except that the MSM knows he will provide a few anti-Bush sound bites with every appearance. Maybe one of the networks can create a new show with an expert panel on terrorism, international relations, military and U.S. intelligence…the panel could consist of Kerry, Cindy Sheehan, LA Times Joel Stein, and George Clooney!

tiny on April 24, 2006 at 12:31 PM

Well, once again we see how leftist politicians aidied by their willing accomplices in the press try to spin this into something very heroic and noble. This is the third glaring example in a couple of years (the Sandy Burger incident and the NSA electronic surveillance being the other) where Democrats with proven ties to the former administration are caught compromising our nations secrets, and all we get from the Left is the lionization and defense of “whistleblowers.” All the while the Left has done their level best to try and convict Scooter Libby of outing a CIA desk jockey who drove through the gates at Langley at least five times a week for several years, and tries to paint our President as a “leaker” when he declassifies data to support the Administration’s claims.

Once again the Left cares not to support our country, only to destroy Republicans and put Democrats back in power, no matter whatt he cost.

geekrunner on April 24, 2006 at 12:56 PM

The end justifies the means?
She could have resigned over her moral dilemma, if she had any.

Reality Check on April 24, 2006 at 12:57 PM

I’m glad to see John Kerry admitting that “leaking” for the truth is a mitigating factor. I wonder if he’ll apply the same standard to the Plame non-scandal, where it’s been determined (by a bipartisan Senate committee) that the TRUTH was that his wife, Valerie Plame, offered his name for the trip to Niger… directly contradicting his lies intended to undermine the administration?

TexasRainmaker on April 24, 2006 at 1:07 PM

Ah, but my favorite part of his quote was this:

“You know, classification in Washington is a tool that is used to hide the truth from the American people. Daniel Patrick Moynihan was eloquent and forceful in always talking about how we needed to, you know, end this endless declassification that takes place in this state, and it has become a tool to hide the truth from Americans.”


Classification is bad because it hides “the truth”. If you reveal secrets, you must be punished! Strangely, de-classification is ALSO bad because it hides the truth.

Thus, to protect the American people from the truth-hiding practice of classifying secret information, we must at all costs refrain from the legal process of de-classifying it, because that is also a tool for hiding the truth!

And here we see the Senator’s essential brilliance: if we can neither classify nor de-classify information without hiding the truth, the only moral process for getting the truth out is to leak it and then go to jail.

[and then her head exploded]

Cassandra on April 24, 2006 at 1:18 PM

In Kerry’s world it sounds like “she leaked before she didn’t leak” or should that be “she didn’t leak before she did leak”… either way she should have been taken away in hand cuffs as a Traitor !

We need to make this an issue, and make sure it doesn’t loose steam here on the web… Swift Boat Vet style. God knows the MSM won’t give it the exposure it needs until the pajamas media makes them.

Go Michelle… keep at it!

Bob Mileti on April 24, 2006 at 1:24 PM

If the situation was reversed: liberals in power & a conservative leaked information – OH MY GOODNESS – you would hear the howls & screams of liberals wanting to disembowel & then crucify this female. If she honestly believed that what she was doing was the right thing, she would have had the guts to do it without the proviso of anonymity. She wanted her job, her pay (our tax dollars hard at work), her benefits – & to be a traitor. As it is, she, like Sheehan, will become a media darling & I will spend even LESS time with MSM sources.

I wonder if that’s possible considering how little time I spend on MSM info now.

I think she should be tried for treason & be in a prison to think about what she has done to our country. She is a coward, a crook & truly makes those she would term ‘trailer trash’ look classy.

How much money has she made so far from all this? I wonder how she can sleep at night & then face herself in the mirror the next morning.

BTW – was she caught taking classified documents out in her pants or skirt? If so, she will only get a slap on the wrist.

blueskieswoman on April 24, 2006 at 1:38 PM

Wonder what Mr. Kerry would think about someone “telling the truth” by leaking his complete military record, something he’s been promising to do for over a year. Probably OK with him, I guess.

Old Coot on April 24, 2006 at 1:39 PM

If there’s anybody who wouldn’t know the truth if it ran him over with a Swift Boat, it’s John F. Kerry.

RBMN on April 24, 2006 at 1:40 PM

Unbelievable. I can’t believe Williams is even thinking that McCarthy did some kind of brave thing by leaking classified information, anonymously I might add (to avoid getting caught), because it affected her conscience. Sometimes you just want to say to these “liberals” (leftists) “What in the world are you thinking?”

Steve Tsouloufis on April 24, 2006 at 1:40 PM

Kerry is at it again, waffling as usual. He claims that he abhors leaking, “but” when it’s the truth that’s being leaked, it’s okay. In liberal speak, that means leaks are okay if they hurt the Bush administration and Republicans in general; however, leaks are bad if they expose the left’s anti-American agenda.

Rick on April 24, 2006 at 1:40 PM

I do not know which is more Ironic, John Kerry defending this agents right to release classified material and thus damaging American national Security (just as long as it’s used to slander the Bush Administration) or the MSM defending the reporters who put this story out.

As always America gets screwed in the end and the resuts of these reports are never reported. Since the story of the NSA ‘wire-tapping’ incident, electronic communications traffic from terrorist to their supporters/allies in this country has dropped off considerbly…but who cares if we now miss the chance to stop the next 9-11 as long as it hurts national security and the ‘journalists’ are up for an award. Same goes for the story on alledged CIA interigations of terrorists in Europe….a very under-reported story has the head of the EU commission on Anti-Terror reporting that after completing their investigations into possible violations regarding CIA rendition and prisons in Europe..they found no truth to it.

Gotta love how the Left is constantly trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory..thus collaborating with oour enemies.

Terlizzi999 on April 24, 2006 at 1:43 PM

Let’s see. . . .revealing government secrets is okay as long as what you reveal is “truthful”?

But it appears that nobody can find these Eastern European “secret prisons”.

So is Kerry condemning Mary McCarthy because she leaked something that possibly wasn’t true?

Narniaman on April 24, 2006 at 1:43 PM

Kerry got a purple heart? Why did he never mention it? I never even knew he served anywhere. Was it in Viet Nam? What did he do there? Why on Earth didn’t he mention any of this during the campaign? >

E5infantry on April 24, 2006 at 1:44 PM

The fact that this pompous windbag secured 48% of the vote proves one thing: liberal media propaganda is flourishing.

swimmerkennedy on April 24, 2006 at 1:46 PM

The buzz is McCarthy was the target of a sting operation. How cute is that???

Aunt B on April 24, 2006 at 1:47 PM

The chance that any of these leakers will be prosecuted is limited. Remember that Clinton had ALL of the US attorneys resign so he could appoint his own. Bush didn’t clean them out. We have many of Clinton’s foxes guarding the henhouse at Justice.

ketchikan on April 24, 2006 at 1:56 PM

Using John Kerrys reasoning, releasing the time , date and location of D-day would be OK because was the truth.

tr33777 on April 24, 2006 at 1:57 PM

When oh when are we going to put this lying traitor in jail instead of the US Senate? Too bad the Vietcong didn’t save us from his idiocy. This guy needs to go somewhere and take a dep breath of reality. In his privliged world the truth doesn’t matter. Of course that’s why he’s a Democrat!

Chasvs on April 24, 2006 at 1:57 PM

There should have been more stings as soon as this administration took office.

RightAllAlong on April 24, 2006 at 1:59 PM

Kerry’s comments are just like Rep. JANE HARMAN, D-CA’s comments equating Bush and Mary McCarthy’s actions.Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace had the segment and the transcript is here:,2933,192734,00.html

tburnham23 on April 24, 2006 at 2:06 PM

The CIA has, ever since President Kennedy sabotaged the Bay Of Pigs Operation, been worthless as a shield against the enemies of these United States. President Johnson had them running assassination teams in Viet Nam, but only in the South and not in the North where they could have done some good. President Nixon tried to ignore the CIA, but made the awful mistake of hiring one of their old lags to plumb for leaks. President Carter used them solely for aerial photography, because President Carter was desirous of being known as a Christian. President Reagan’s Bill Casey attempted to breathe life into the corpse, but expired himself before time. President Bush [I] gazed benevolently on the creature he once administered and ignored its product. President Clinton preferred a CIA that resembled those three monkeys, deaf, dumb, and blind behind Ms. Gorelick’s WALL OF DECEIT. President Bush [II] has learned that he is the TARGET of the CIA, who have been running several games on him with a view to destabilizing his Administration. The CIA has had more success in Washington than in the Middle East and Central America. They needed to waste no resources on bribibg the Press or the Broadcasters, which they found a nice change.

I have long advocated disbanding this expensive blob of secretive malice and restoring the intelligence functions of the Armed Forces, who can appreciate the cost in blood and disgrace when intelligence is lacking or erroneous. Soldiers and sailors are motivated. CIA Spooks are merely venomously ambitious.

Waumpuscat on April 24, 2006 at 2:06 PM

Wow. What a coincidence. An article about Kerry on the debut of “Hot Air.” I mean, he’s hot air personified. Who knew?

Khyber Pass on April 24, 2006 at 2:14 PM

What you have to understand is, when a liberal leaks something possibly critical to our survival, it’s an act of bravery and selflessness. When a conservative mentions a “secret agent” who isn’t secret, it’s a threat to national security and the world at large. And of course the media goes along with that double standard too.

I’m just wondering when the Justice Department is going to use a little clout against these folks. I suppose it will be like ol’ Sandy and the documents accidentally caught in his socks, she will walk with not even the wrist slap he received.

JimChandler on April 24, 2006 at 2:29 PM

It’s no surprise Ms. McCarthy was appointed by none other than Sandy ‘Burglar’.

I tell ya, I would not want to spend 5 minutes in Juan Williams head…scary neighborhood.

silenced majority on April 24, 2006 at 2:30 PM

You just watch — if criminal charges are pressed, the left will stop at nothing to claim persecution by a fascist government. I wouldn’t even be surprised if some of them started talking about the 1st Amendment, given their longstanding confusion over the rights granted in that particular instrument.

I think the left seems to think there’s only something wrong with selling state secrets, but giving them away to the press is absolutely proper. I mean, c’mon, that information belongs to the people anyway, RIGHT?

darngoodcoffee on April 24, 2006 at 2:31 PM

Kerry is on so many sides of the fence that its a miracle that he hasn’t been arrested for trespassing.. geez.. can than man not pick a side on a topic and stick to it.. like the war on terror in Iraq.. he is for leaking but not for leaking… its a liberal disease…

when ever I see that man on tv or in the news I get down on my knees and thank God that he is not our President…

see ya
cathy : )

cathymv on April 24, 2006 at 2:32 PM

When the President declassifies the National Intelligence Estimate, and Scooter Libby feeds the reporters the declassified reports, it’s called TREASON.

When a liberal Kerry $2,000.00 campaign contributor, also a CIA person, LEAKS classified information on supposed covert CIA interrogation places, gets caught, lies about it, gets hammered and has to confess, and in the mean time destroys a portion of our secret behind the scenes War on Terror, it’s called PATRIOTISM.

This is so backwards, it’s unbelieveable the whole of the left press is totally supporting the massive distortion.

In other words, if a radical democrat spreads national secrets that hurt or expose or shutdown war on terror ops, they’re a hero. If President Bush declassifies information the American Public needs and Scooter Libby passes it along, he is a treasonist.

I am not going along with this utter foolishness.

I can no longer abide these democrats, they are liberal lying sacks of dirt whose minds have turned to mush and whose lips know no bounds to their own treachery. Words cannot begin to describe my complete and total disregard for their them and their weak lying obfuscations. I would be utterly ashamed to speak the words the democrats regularly speak, because I KNOW they are outright LIES, and so much so that they are not even disguised anymore, as it would be impossible to do.

I have always voted independently and without any party affiliation, but I cannot and will not vote for a single democrat this next election round. I cannot vote for a democrat when I have dozens of continuous confirmed lies coming from their lips, at all levels of their party and their talking heads. I don’t know if this is something new with the demolib Bush hate perps, or if it has been standard operating procedure for many years, but I am now fully aware of it, thanks to the 24 hour news cycle.

I have on the other hand found the Republicans to be consistently common sensed truth tellers far and above the democrats incessant lies and cover ups for their own faulty criminal negligence of the basic truth.

The worst thing about this whole secret prison rendition issue is that even the NYT had the European head guy claiming there is no evidence they had actually existed. Now, if they actually didn’t it says a lot about this lying set of democrats and their loose lipped traitorous cabal crew. If they in fact did and do( even to a lesser or ending extent because of the leaks), it says just as much about the treasonous anti-American lying libdems and their senseless disregard for our security and authority to root out, trap, contain, interrogate, prosecute, and imprison those whom will slaughter even their own fellow citizens and anyone from any nation whatsoever in the entire world with impunity based upon some ridiculously insane perversion of common sense and humanity that they faithlessly call a religion.

I love to point out that although Bin Laden has released another democrat’s campaign talking point tape, he has become neutered and impotent in the eyes of the analysts and commentators, since Binny Lib Laden Boys destructive murderous explosion sprees have not occurred of late following his released Al Jazeera cries for a peace settlement and compromise, and that says to me, that he has had his network throttled and beaten to death so sufficiently that we now enjoy a degree of respite.

I dare not vote for the appeasement wacko lib crew of multi-cultural coddling that begged for us to get inside the head of Bin Laden, our misunderstood enemy, they then said, so we could understand where he is coming form. Well, we have all heard Bin Ladens latest rounds of tapes, and like the one prior to election 2004, it sounded almost EXACTLY like the DEMOCRATS entire campaign platform, and NOW WE DO KNOW WHOM AND WHAT OUR ENEMY IS LIKE AND WHAT THEY ARE THINKING…AND WE MIGHT AS WELL CALL BIN LADEN A DEMOCRAT, OR THE DEMOCRATS YOU KNOW WHOM.

I am really sorry, libbocrats, but shoe DOES FIT, and in fact, YOU ARE WEARING IT.

I certainly cannot change my “feelings” on this matter, since they are supported by FACTS.

PS- I do NOT expect to convert any leftos- IMO they are so far gone from the truth, only a gigantically enormous personal life experience can do anything at all to help thrust them from their brainwashed traitorous and infantile and moronic lies and USA hatred condition. If they do regain power electorally, just remember, everything they’re saying now is exactly what they will be implementing behind the scenes…even if the press never talks about it, and it never really becomes a public issue whatsoever. I imagine they will be too busy praising their endless successes with the entire USA and the world to divert any time whatsoever to outlining exactly what they are doing, even behind the scenes. Then of course, it will be too late, the seeds of insecurity will have been sown, just like the now largely reversed Church commission.

NO MORE 30+ years of democrat imcompetence and insecurity for the USA!


Harry Truman, LBJ, and JFK would SPIT on the sissy lying demorats of today.

DO NOT BE FOOLED, the enemy is here, and they have a lot of cohorts.

RealAmericanSVC on April 24, 2006 at 3:08 PM

It’s difficult to prosecute for treason because it is very closely defined by the Constitution:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

Yikes! Upon reading that sentance, a name or two did, in fact, come to mind.

withoutfeathers on April 24, 2006 at 3:14 PM

If only the Rosenbergs had the ability to funnel our national intelligence secrets thru the Washington Post, they could’ve avoided that whole being executed-for-spying business.

Let this be a lesson to all aspiring traitors: GIVE IT TO THE MEDIA FIRST AND LET THEM PASS/PRINT IT TO OUR ENEMIES! It has the same results, but you can avoid criminal sanction and possibly get a nice Vanity Fair article.

DirkBelig on April 24, 2006 at 3:15 PM

The libs have been getting away with this kind of nonsense for too long. I’m stunned McCarthy hasn’t done the perp-walk. Did she make a deal to testify against bigger fish? Like Durbin and Rockafeller?
Is that really why the media won’t chase this? They’re afraid their friends are in the cross-hairs?

Iblis on April 24, 2006 at 4:41 PM

I’m no lawyer, but can someone shed some light on why we don’t seem to try anyone for treason anymore?

I’ve wondered the same thing many times.

rightwingprof on April 24, 2006 at 6:51 PM

Kerry’s McCarthyism (n) It’s OK to be a to give up secret intel if it’s given to everyone for free, but you still have to deny the charge first.

reformedlibrary on April 24, 2006 at 7:10 PM

“If only the Rosenbergs had the ability to funnel our national intelligence secrets thru the Washington Post, they could’ve avoided that whole being executed-for-spying business.”

If found guilty, McCarthy should meet the same fate as the Rosenbergs … unfortunately, in our spineless society, we don’t even call it treason anymore (much less deal with in the appropriate manner).

thirteen28 on April 24, 2006 at 7:17 PM

Let me see if I have this straight. If you work for the CIA and you find out that Osama Bin Laden has definitely been located in a specific cave in Afghanistan and Special Ops is going in there tomorrow to get him, you should immediately tell the press because it’s the truth and the American people deserve to know. Or is it only the right thing to do when you don’t approve of the current Administration?

hmhauser on April 24, 2006 at 7:17 PM

We’ve been betrayed. First the cry-baby generals, now a high-ranking CIA officer. I always thought the CIA, FBI and the military were apolitical. Silly me.

IrishEi on April 24, 2006 at 7:22 PM

Note to Rightallthetime and Rightwingprof:

I think calling someone/something treasonous is politically incorrect. No wait, it’s racist…

IrishEi on April 24, 2006 at 7:28 PM

Kerry must have swallowed too much of that river water in Viet Nam. His statements about our troops not knowing how to drive trucks in Iraq causing IED incicdents, then rambling on about Corpus Christi, Pensacola…what was that all about? The guy is as nuts as Teddy. Thank God for 2004.

gary on April 24, 2006 at 7:56 PM

You know, I’ve seen Juan Williams in other forums, and at times he can be quite reasonable. Most other times, however, he provides “punching bag” fodder for all the other panelists. Clue, meet Mr. Juan Williams. Please help him get you.

whatnext on April 24, 2006 at 8:12 PM

Why doesn’t Skerry leak his military records ?

ashiya on April 24, 2006 at 8:29 PM

Perhaps Kerry might leak his military records.

ashiya on April 24, 2006 at 8:30 PM

It is too soon to draw firm conclusions, but this seems to have the potential to be a plot by rogue elements of the CIA to bring down the President of the United States, possibly in collusion with elements of the media, and even in concert with the leadership of the Democrat party. If so, and if the truth comes out, it could become one of the biggest scandals in U.S. history.


1. Mary may not be the only leaker.

2. Mary may have known the identity of other leakers.

3. Mary may have known Valerie Plame and/or Joe Wilson.

So… If Mary coordinated any of her leaks with other leakers she is guilty of conspiracy.

And… If she coordinated any of her actions with Valerie Plame, she and Plame/Wilson are potentially guilty of conspiracy.

The purpose of such a conspiracy would, of course, be to bring down the legally elected government of the United States.

It will be very interesting to see where all of this goes…

EternalHope on April 24, 2006 at 8:40 PM

EternalHope should add the retired generals and admirals to the list of conspirators.

Chilling Thought: If there is/was a conspiracy against the Bush Admin and the retired generals and admirals are a part of it, it is logical to assume that there are, or might be some members of the conspiracy who are active duty generals, admirals, colonels, captains etc…etc… Afterall, a retired senior flag officer does not, in reality, loose his sources of inside info since they still wield substantial power in the miliary buracracy through their friends and those who owe them favors. I this assumption is true it does not bode well for the chances of the US winning a decisive victory in the war on terror since all military and intelligence operations would be at risk of exposure to the public and thus to our enemies.

Brown James on April 24, 2006 at 9:45 PM

This is sad to see. A party so desperate to bring down their political rivals that they are condoning treason. What are our children to think? What sort of precedence is this setting? Is the already scandalous and oft skulldugerous realm of political gamesmanship now gambling with our national security? I for one am outraged. Where is the accountability? Who does this person think they are to feel that they have the authority to reveal secrets which aid and comfort enemies of the USA? Where I come from that’s treason. Is it now to become commonplace for dissenting members of an administration or governmental organization to reveal national secrets if they don’t agree with a particular policy? Does anyone see where this road is leading? This needs to be quashed! All parties need to stop this before it becomes commonplace.

reflexx on April 24, 2006 at 9:54 PM

One of the things that bothers me is how often Larry C. Johnson of Berg associates pops up in conjunction with these leaks / irregualrities. He is connected to Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson, and Mary McCarthy. He is also a very outspoken critic of the Bush administration. I would be willing to bet that he is associated with Tyler Drumheller, and the other guy who wrote the book right after 9/11.

chad on April 24, 2006 at 9:58 PM

Kerry was for leaking before he was against it.

lostmyleggins on April 24, 2006 at 11:53 PM

Free speech does not mean that a forum must be given to those who want to exercise it in such an embarrassing way. But ain’t great that the more the liberals talk, the more their true colors show through! They continue to prove true the Proverb: “Every sensible person acts knowledgeably, but a fool displays his stupidity.” Prov 13:16 (HCSB) Certainly their stupidity is on display for all to see.

Acts20:24 on April 25, 2006 at 12:03 AM

According to Juan Williams’ convoluted thinking Sam Waksal was perfectly within his rights to notify Martha Stewart that ImClone stock was about to go belly-up. But of course, like all good liberals, Juan will pick and choose which actions he approves of (like Mary McCarthy) and those he doesn’t. Juan’s logic and defense of McCarthy on Sunday was unbelievable stunning.

armybrat on April 25, 2006 at 12:20 AM

Nice site, how do we do trackbacks?

For anyone interested, the talking points now seem to be McCarthy is innocent and this is one big mistake. Gutsy. Stupid, but gutsy.

Cheers, AJStrata

AJStrata on April 25, 2006 at 12:20 AM

Never mind on the trackbacks – got it!

AJStrata on April 25, 2006 at 12:25 AM

Lurch continues to remind us why he is unquestionably, “unfit for duty”. Thinking that he has a snowballs chance to be renominated by his party clearly demonstrates a delusional individual.

geo11 on April 25, 2006 at 12:36 AM

Is John Kerry “reporting for duty” again. Only this time it’s to defend the undefendable….The only bright spot in this whole mess is the bit of news that the CIA is running several dozen other joint investigations into Agency leakers….I have faith in DCI Goss in his attempt at pursuing the violators of their oath of secrecy…I’n not so sure about members of the agency policing their own….on will have to see what happens.

Terlizzi999 on April 25, 2006 at 12:45 AM

Kerry loves backstabers, last December on one of the Sunday talk shows he called the military in Iraq terrerists just like he did before congress during the Vietnam war.

birdman on April 25, 2006 at 1:05 AM

If President Bush declassifies information the American Public needs and Scooter Libby passes it along, he is a treasonist. – RealAmericanSVC

I’m curious – exactly what information did the American Public need?

Zeus on April 25, 2006 at 1:29 AM

So now according to sKerry and juan, it is ok to commit treason, as long as you feel it’s the right thing to do? That shows what the left thinks about America’s security.

R D on April 25, 2006 at 2:03 AM

I watched the Juan Williams bit in context on Fox News Sunday. You can always count on him to parrot the Demobrat talking points no matter what the issue. This diatribe was outrageous, even for him. There’s no question Juan is pretty far out there on most issues, but I don’t ever remember the whole of the panel jumping on him as they did with these outrageous statements. Even Mara Liasson, his compatriot from NPR, seemed stunned at the over-the-top justification he gave for releasing highly classified information. Scary indeed, silenced majority! If someone in the military ever released information of this nature, they’d be spending years breaking rocks at Fort Leavenworth, no matter how strongly their conscience led them to it. I’d like to believe this won’t be the last leaker found and fired, but I sincerely hope that all of them do hard time to go along with it. Political leaks are one thing, and even Kerry seems to dislike them (hard to tell for certain…his lips were moving), but there is absolutely no rationalization that can justify unauthorized release of classified information pertaining to a pending or ongoing operation during a time of war. So, what are the chances we’ll see any of these criminals in jail…in an election year? Don’t hold your breath.

MarkInBeavercreek on April 25, 2006 at 2:05 AM

RealAmericanSVC –
If President Bush declassifies information the American Public needs and Scooter Libby passes it along, he is a treasonist.
Exactly what information did Scooter pass along that the American Public needed to know?

EternalHope –
1. Mary may not be the only leaker.
2. Mary may have known the identity of other leakers.
If so, and if the truth comes out, it could become one of the biggest scandals in U.S. history.
I agree with you. Mary was not the only leaker and she knows the identities of other leakers (George W Bush, Richard Cheney and Scooter Libby). And yes, it probably will become one of the biggest scandals in US History. If it seems that I have used your intelligence selectively, well – I think you get the point.

Zeus on April 25, 2006 at 2:31 AM

Why are my comments not posting?

Zeus on April 25, 2006 at 2:35 AM

The new low is the claim in Newsweek that her confession can’t be used in a prosecution because it came after she took and failed a voluntary polygraph (which itself couldn’t be admitted). This is not just wrong, legally, it is without any basis or rationale. This view is ascribed to an anonymous source. I have never heard of getting views of the law from anonymous sources. What is going on here is to try and persuade McCarthy to not roll and cooperate. It appears that it may constitute conspiracy to obstruct justice. It would be nice to get some indictments and pick up a nice load of WP staffers.

Bert66 on April 25, 2006 at 3:03 AM

the lefts continued assistance to our enemies will continue to flourish due, in part, to the aiding and abetting of the MSM. While the left’s hold on media information is steadily eroding, it still has some punch. Consider the fact that sandy burger stuffed potentialy incriminating evidence against the clinton administration down his pants and the MSM gave him a pass. Sure the ‘new media’ created quite a stir on the issue. But he still got a pass. It is worth noting that had this happened 15 years ago, it would have barely been a blip on the media radar screen. So americans are indeed making inroads against the 5th collumn MSM. But there is still a lot of ground to be covered. And is a fine addition to blogs and talk radio in americans taking back america.
Best Regards, CHOW

chow on April 25, 2006 at 3:33 AM

“If you thing the percentage of people who trusts Bush is low, look at the percentage of people who trusts the people who trusts Bush!”

I’m not sure what the author is referring to, but I guess it will eventually sink in. Until then, I guess I can toss around the word, “treason”, and feel better about myself, in my diminishing cocoon of trust.

– translated from the original by Anonymoses Hyperlincoln III

anonyMoses on April 25, 2006 at 4:16 AM

“If you think the percentage of people who trusts Bush is low, look at the percentage of people who trusts the people who trusts Bush!”

I’m not sure what the author is referring to, but I guess it will eventually sink in. Until then, I guess I can toss around the word, “treason”, and feel better about myself, in my diminishing cocoon of trust.

– re-translated from the aboriginal by Anonymoses Hyperlincoln III

anonyMoses on April 25, 2006 at 4:17 AM

Hey John It would be nice if someone leaked your military record…….You know the true one!

Hey wait John and Juan. What did you think of Linda Tripp and her truth about Monica Slick.

Fandango on April 25, 2006 at 6:40 AM

This “culture of treason” permeates the government. The State Department and CIA are filled with Rosenberg wannabes. McCarthy no doubt considers herself to be a martyr for the left. Her “leak” was nothing more than an IED supplied to the media. She will be a hero before the week is out on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, et al. We are witnessing the workings of a rogue bureaucracy that is in full revolt. Benedict Arnold could easily be elected to office as a Democrat today.

armorman on April 25, 2006 at 7:44 AM

Hanoi “reporting for duty” Boi is at it again. War criminal Kerry is a coward and a fake, guilty of treason and betrayal.

The Left will be shouting “McCarthyism” before too terribly long.

doingwhatican on April 25, 2006 at 8:28 AM

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

We should remind ourselves that even John Walker Lindh, who actually took up arms against the United States in Afghanistan, was not charged with treason.

The MSM constantly gives “aid and comfort to the enemy” nearly every day they portray Iraq as a “quagmire.” Without their support, our Islamist enemies wouldn’t have prayer and UBL knows it.

Tom McLaughlin on April 25, 2006 at 9:33 AM

He says it’s hard to have a view on it! How the heck is it hard to have a view on treason??!! Good grief!

Wild Thing on April 25, 2006 at 9:36 AM

Ditto here Wild Thing!

birdman on April 25, 2006 at 11:47 AM


Crude One on April 25, 2006 at 12:50 PM

J. Effin Kerry, your swift boat is leaking

aflyonthewall on April 25, 2006 at 4:37 PM

It’s J.fn Kerry, and his swift boat has sunk.

birdman on April 25, 2006 at 4:40 PM

“Culture of corruption” versus “culture of treason”: the voters will decide in November. How do I vote for “none of the above”?

And yes, the Dems are just as corrupt (if not more so) than the GOP – they just don’t have as much opportunity at this time. “Absolute power …” etc.

At least Republicans don’t place politics ahead of their country.

dman on April 26, 2006 at 9:39 AM

What do you do with a Clinton Traitor
What do you do with a Clinton Traitor
What do you do with a Clinton Traitor
Er-lie in the mornin’

Up against the wall and everyone fire
Up against the wall and everyone fire
Up against the wall and everyone fire
Er-lie in the mornin’

Khyber Pass on April 26, 2006 at 10:49 AM

Amen Kyber Pass took the words rite out of my mouth.

birdman on April 26, 2006 at 11:30 AM

Shooting is to good for these things, this pile of dung use a baseball bat.

birdman on April 27, 2006 at 6:26 PM